[UNIV] ISR - Industrial Stations Renewal

[Sanchimaru]

Thank you everybody!! I'm very glad that you are liking what you see so far! and to mart3p, who is giving this set an incredible boost!

Expect the gantry cranes for the next release, along with the old harbor cranes. They have been re-worked, we hope to be seeing these two showing soon

>Ben_K: you're welcome whenever you have got the time! your gold facilities are still one of the best parts of this set. I'm taking good note of your comments. Since that only requires color tweaking, It shouldn't be a hard work to do. That limits its priority too, however.

[DanMacK]

Excellent work One thing I would suggest is time-limiting the Containers and modern cranes to post 1960....

[mart3p]

Thanks DanMacK. The modern gantry cranes are going to introduced in 1960. Sanchimaru has already asked me to do this.

You're right that the containers should also be post 1960, but this would require some additional graphics to display on platforms for goods pre 1960...

[wallyweb]

You're right that the containers should also be post 1960, but this would require some additional graphics to display on platforms for goods pre 1960...

Hey there Sanchimaru and DanMack ... How are you guys at drawing wooden crates and cardboard boxes?

[mph]

I did these a while ago. You are all free to use them. If you want me to put them on platforms I can do- only which ones. Exactly the same as the modern ones only whith these crates? Or a more dirty platform?

[DanMacK]

Those look awesome mph How about a wooden platform?

[mart3p]

>mph: Those boxes look really good. The platforms used to display cargo are these:

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Have a look at the "Processed Goods" sprites on the ISR webpage. The containers that these could replace for years before 1960, are in the first six rows of sprites.

I don’t think it would be necessary to have another style of platform. These platforms are used for many stations in the set and are also designed to fit alongside many of the other non-track tiles. Adding another style for pre-1960 would require many other graphics changes throughout the set.

[mph]

yeah- I think they would look good on those and they would fit much better with the rest of the set. Ill have a go at doing them. Ill do them to match exactly the more modern ones (with regards to which platforms and number of variations etc).

Not sure how long it;'ll take me- I have so much uni work to do- but it seems the more work i have the more drawing i end up doing

[wallyweb]

it seems the more work i have the more drawing i end up doing

Ok ... you have 5 essays, 14 term papers and 43 lab reports due in the morning.

[rbenevid]

Have a look at the "Processed Goods" sprites on the ISR webpage. The containers that these could replace for years before 1960, are in the first six rows of sprites.

I don’t think it would be necessary to have another style of platform. These platforms are used for many stations in the set and are also d

I didn't know there was a site.... there aren't enough words to describe how impressive this set is becoming. Thanks to you all.

I think the normal platforms are "ageless" enough to be used with the wooden crates. What kind of material were platforms made in the 20s or such? Bricks, cement, wood?

[mph]

There are some forklift type things on the modern platforms. It might be nice to have something similar on the old ones. What would there have been>? any ideas?

[Ameecher]

There are some forklift type things on the modern platforms. It might be nice to have something similar on the old ones. What would there have been>? any ideas?

Good old BR BRUTE?

[Sanchimaru]

>mph: Those crates are great!! exactly what we needed You can do the work yourself if you like, or if yoy think that you are going to be too busy, I can afford that. However, I'd like to see what can you do with them
And very good question about the forklifts... if someone can find images to document this, that would be quite helpful.

[Railwaymodeler]

What kind of material were platforms made in the 20s or such? Bricks, cement, wood?

I think they were made of either brick or wood, depending on the usage. I have some old model kits that were actually made in the 1930s or 1940s (I collect and run vintage HO models) and they platforms are mostly brick. That's what I base that on.

I guess the 'cheaper' platforms would be wood, though, while better platforms would be brick.

[Sanchimaru]

Now that we have a number of older facilities and fixtures, maybe one of the next steps in the industrial renewal should be to draw platforms for the older times. I guess brick shall be the choice, since wood doesn't seem quite suitable for heavy cargo manipulating.

However this is quite a big work to be done, and it will have to wait. But it seems a good idea, I'll think about it.
Other elements to be changed should be barrels > wooden barrels, etc. Since it needs a lot of document for older times cargo, I think we'd better have it done after the release of the first complete version of the set.

In the meantime, we can have mph's wooden crates on the current platforms as they are, that should not be a big problem

[wallyweb]

Now that we have a number of older facilities and fixtures, maybe one of the next steps in the industrial renewal should be to draw platforms for the older times. I guess brick shall be the choice, since wood doesn't seem quite suitable for heavy cargo manipulating.

It all depends upon the years in question. In the village where I grew up the platform dated from the 1920's. It consisted of wood railroad ties lined along the trackside with earth topped with cinders (lots of those from coal burning steam engines) packed in behind the ties to form the actual platform. The cinder surface, when packed down, was really quite durable and easy to maintain. In larger communities with heavier traffic, the platforms would have been cement (not concrete) or brick.

[mph]

I think that these platforms look OK. IF you want to change them, it would not be too hard to change these to the new platforms- but i would agree that they would be very low down the list of priorities.

Anyway- here's 2 variations- another 6 to go... Ill be working on the rest...

[Aegir]

Those crates blow me away, they are marvelous looking, mph. As for introductory/expiry dates, intermodal containers definitely need to be delayed in their introduction, but can we avoid phasing out these crates? There are still plenty of short little goods runs in my games that would look just plain silly hauling containers around in, and these crates deserve to get as much playable time as they can get .

[Silverx50]

those are truly marvelous. awsome stuff, can't wait to see them finished and ready for use.

[wallyweb]

Those crates blow me away, they are marvelous looking, mph. As for introductory/expiry dates, intermodal containers definitely need to be delayed in their introduction, but can we avoid phasing out these crates? There are still plenty of short little goods runs in my games that would look just plain silly hauling containers around in, and these crates deserve to get as much playable time as they can get .

I agree with Aegir. How about a "General Cargo" platform to keep those crates around forever? That way, the container platforms could use the crates in the early years and switch over to containers without sacrificing crate availability.