British Rail Set (BRTrains v2)

[audigex]

Version 2.5 released. As usual, a couple of units, a few liveries, and a few fixes included in this version

The next version is expected to be a breaking change as some locomotive lengths get re-worked, so don't start a game with this version expecting to be able to upgrade in-game. If you want to play a long game with the set, I recommend waiting for the next version after this one, which should hopefully be the only breaking change in the near future

- Added APT-E (Gas Turbine APT)
- Added Dual Voltage version of Class 373 Eurostar
- Added Pride liveries for Class 390 and 700
- Added Greater Anglia liveries to Class 153 + 156
- Added BR Black livery for Class 37
- Added Northern "Tour of Yorkshire" livery for Class 158
- Added Aventra cab windows on side view
- Fixed BR170 Northern livery missing middle car sprite
- Fixed some names, added some nicknames to units
- Fixed Class 55 (Deltic) alignment
- Disambiguated 745/755 (FLIRT) from 720 (Aventra) on diagonal views

[andythenorth]

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Are there any plans to update this? The UK has a number of new units coming up, as well as some new liveries already floating about the network, would be nice if they were added.

Great work so far as always though.

[audigex]

Are there any plans to update this? The UK has a number of new units coming up, as well as some new liveries already floating about the network, would be nice if they were added.

Great work so far as always though.

Yup, absolutely

I’ve got a couple of big jobs that need doing on the project that have been putting me off a bit (they’re a little daunting) but at some point there will almost certainly be an update

Give me a list of the units and liveries you’re thinking of and I’ll make sure they’re added

A handful are already either drawn or coded (196/197 are two obvious examples) but things like the EMR and Avanti 800-series aren’t drawn yet as they don’t exist as far as I’m aware (I can only find artists impressions so far)

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Are there any plans to update this? The UK has a number of new units coming up, as well as some new liveries already floating about the network, would be nice if they were added.

Great work so far as always though.

Yup, absolutely

Absolutely I can give a list, and its good to see you're still active and continuing the great work!

So here's what i'm aware of at present. There's probably more I am unaware of from a cursory search, doesn't include the 196/197 you mentioned already.

New Stock

• New Underground stock, currently under testing, expected to enter service by 2025, no designation yet, just 'New Tube for London' -> TfL posted images on their twitter, they're currently under testing -> https://twitter.com/TfL/status/1725483940318687284/
• New Aventra units with West Midlands Trains, data and images on wikipedia, comes in 3 & 5 car variants -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_730
• New TfW stock - Class 231 -> https://news.tfw.wales/news/tfw-launch- ... tro-trains

New liveries on old units

• For 150/1, LNR livery -> https://www.londonnorthwesternrailway.c ... -vale-line
• For 153, Scotrail -> https://busandtrainuser.com/2021/11/04/ ... -explorer/
• For 720, C2C -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_R ... 6_5Q93.jpg
• For 221, Grand Central, appears to just be a repaint of the lead carriages, rest are XC still -> https://twitter.com/kwpartlow/status/16 ... 1813350612

Old units but not included in BRTrains2 at present, if you ever feel like adding them, they might be nice?

• Class 320, 321 & 322 - these are similar so you could cheat & combine them, various liveries & operators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_320 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_321 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_322
• Class 360 Desiro -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_360
• The DLR stock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docklands ... ling_stock

Also i'm not sure why, but some units with both SWR & SWT liveries, only mention SWT in the "liveries" list on the purchase menu.

[audigex]

Are there any plans to update this? The UK has a number of new units coming up, as well as some new liveries already floating about the network, would be nice if they were added.

Great work so far as always though.

Yup, absolutely

Absolutely I can give a list, and its good to see you're still active and continuing the great work!

So here's what i'm aware of at present. There's probably more I am unaware of from a cursory search, doesn't include the 196/197 you mentioned already.

New Stock

• New Underground stock, currently under testing, expected to enter service by 2025, no designation yet, just 'New Tube for London' -> TfL posted images on their twitter, they're currently under testing -> https://twitter.com/TfL/status/1725483940318687284/
• New Aventra units with West Midlands Trains, data and images on wikipedia, comes in 3 & 5 car variants -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_730
• New TfW stock - Class 231 -> https://news.tfw.wales/news/tfw-launch- ... tro-trains

New liveries on old units

• For 150/1, LNR livery -> https://www.londonnorthwesternrailway.c ... -vale-line
• For 153, Scotrail -> https://busandtrainuser.com/2021/11/04/ ... -explorer/
• For 720, C2C -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_R ... 6_5Q93.jpg
• For 221, Grand Central, appears to just be a repaint of the lead carriages, rest are XC still -> https://twitter.com/kwpartlow/status/16 ... 1813350612

Old units but not included in BRTrains2 at present, if you ever feel like adding them, they might be nice?

• Class 320, 321 & 322 - these are similar so you could cheat & combine them, various liveries & operators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_320 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_321 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_322
• Class 360 Desiro -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_360
• The DLR stock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docklands ... ling_stock

Also i'm not sure why, but some units with both SWR & SWT liveries, only mention SWT in the "liveries" list on the purchase menu.

I realised I've not updated this thread for the last few versions but to cover these requests specifically:

The 730 Aventra (WMR + LNWR) and 231 are both now in game, as are the LNWR 150 and 720 C2C liveries IIRC although I can't remember off the top of my head. 221 Grand Central livery is definitely in

Class 320/321/322 are currently in progress and should hopefully make it into 2.8 soon

DLR stock and the new LU stock are currently on hold while I decide how to handle metro stock going forward

When I release 2.9 I'll try to remember to come back here and do a full changelog update

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I realised I've not updated this thread for the last few versions but to cover these requests specifically:

Thank you so much for the update. Admittedly I can't use most of these updates, as I play games for many many months, so will have to be next time I start a game, i update the GRF

I did come across a glitch though, if you have a 378/2 with the middle car celebration, you cannot link 2 of these together, well you can but only the first one retains the livery, the second appears as a standard one.

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[audigex]

I realised I've not updated this thread for the last few versions but to cover these requests specifically:

Thank you so much for the update. Admittedly I can't use most of these updates, as I play games for many many months, so will have to be next time I start a game, i update the GRF

I did come across a glitch though, if you have a 378/2 with the middle car celebration, you cannot link 2 of these together, well you can but only the first one retains the livery, the second appears as a standard one.

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Fixed for the next version, along with a bug I noticed while doing it (378/0 was marked as 5 car despite being 3 car)

Thanks for the report

Edit: Also I got distracted by this thread and added the 2024 Stock, I can also confirm the LNWR 150 and C2C 720 liveries definitely are in the set (my previous reply I couldn't remember for certain)

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[dol422]

While the 378s are in the spotlight, I've noticed something about them

The 378/2 appears four times (twice as 4 car and twice as 5 car both dual voltage). When purchasing on overhead lines, only two appear, I think the other two (which should be 378/1s) are third rail only.

[audigex]

It's not a class I'm very familiar with, but as far as I understand it the sub-classes and variants are

- 378/0: 3 car dual voltage
- 378/1 4 car 3rd rail only
- 378/1 5 car 3rd rail only (converted from the 4-car 378/1)
- 378/2 4-car dual voltage (some converted from the 3-car 378/0, some built as 4 car)
- 378/2 5-car dual voltage (converted from the 4-car 378/2)

On 3rd rail you should see all 5 (or if you don't have a track set that includes 3rd rail). On OHLE you should see three (378/0 3 car, 378/2 4 car, and 378/2 5 car)

Note that there's a bug in the currently released version where the 378/0 (3-Car, Dual Voltage) is displayed as 378/0 (5-car, Dual Voltage) although it does correctly function as a 3 car unit

Also there's a difference in introduction dates (3 car in 2009, 4 car in 2011, 5 car in 2013) and subsequently the dates they stop being available (3 car will stop being available around 2024, 4 car around 2026, and 5 car currently around 2028 although in the new version they will be set not to expire to allow for use into the future). So if you're looking between 2024 and 2026 ish in game then you might only see the 4 and 5 car

If you're seeing something other than that, please could you throw me a screenshot here (or maybe on Discord in case we need to run through a few things? https://discord.gg/kt8GDE9GQN) and I'll take a look. It seems correct in my test game, but there might be something different about your setup that I'm not accounting for

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as far as I understand it the sub-classes and variants are
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Kind of yes, with a caveat

Currently there are only 2 subclasses, 378/1 (750 V DC third rail) & 378/2 (750 V DC or 25kV overhead). All trains are 5 carriages long.

You ARE correct that there used to be 378/0, however they were renumbered 378/2 after their additional carriage was added. You're also correct that originally the trains were not all 5 cars long to start with, they're all 5 car now though, hurray adding extra passenger space.
So it depends how OK you are with adding extra entries for trains that used to exist, but were later merged into different classes, or keeping them for sake of 'the old times'

I don't use these often, as I'm not a londoner, but that is my understanding of them.

[dol422]

It's not a class I'm very familiar with, but as far as I understand it the sub-classes and variants are

- 378/0: 3 car dual voltage
- 378/1 4 car 3rd rail only
- 378/1 5 car 3rd rail only (converted from the 4-car 378/1)
- 378/2 4-car dual voltage (some converted from the 3-car 378/0, some built as 4 car)
- 378/2 5-car dual voltage (converted from the 4-car 378/2)

On 3rd rail you should see all 5 (or if you don't have a track set that includes 3rd rail). On OHLE you should see three (378/0 3 car, 378/2 4 car, and 378/2 5 car)

Note that there's a bug in the currently released version where the 378/0 (3-Car, Dual Voltage) is displayed as 378/0 (5-car, Dual Voltage) although it does correctly function as a 3 car unit

Also there's a difference in introduction dates (3 car in 2009, 4 car in 2011, 5 car in 2013) and subsequently the dates they stop being available (3 car will stop being available around 2024, 4 car around 2026, and 5 car currently around 2028 although in the new version they will be set not to expire to allow for use into the future). So if you're looking between 2024 and 2026 ish in game then you might only see the 4 and 5 car

If you're seeing something other than that, please could you throw me a screenshot here (or maybe on Discord in case we need to run through a few things? https://discord.gg/kt8GDE9GQN) and I'll take a look. It seems correct in my test game, but there might be something different about your setup that I'm not accounting for

I usually start my games in 2023, with vehicles never expire on, I am also using version 2.8 which I believe is the latest. Here is a screenshot showing the issue:

You are correct with three showing up on OHLE, and 5 on third rail. However, on 3rd rail, the 378/2 4-car and 378/2 5-car appear to be duplicated. I presume the duplications are actually supposed to be 378/1s.

[audigex]

Ah I see. Which version are you using? I’m trying to remember if I’ve already fixed that (and you might just have a slightly older version) before I dig around too much trying to find a bug

[dol422]

I'm using 2.8 which I believe is the latest unless I've missed something.