V4 CEE Train Set

[Wahazar]

I've noticed that 55E Skoda Bo'Bo' and 69E Skoda Bo'Bo' are available on 15kV AC but in reality, those locos are able to operate only on 3 kV DC and 25 AC. Was that made as a decision or is this some kind of mistake?

I decided to make some simplifications, thus all multisystem engines are fully universal (3, 15 and 25 kV) no matter of what prototypes are.

[spajdy]

I decided to make some simplifications, thus all multisystem engines are fully universal (3, 15 and 25 kV) no matter of what prototypes are.

I get it, but it was bugging me. I know it is possible to do it properly, but it is annoying as f.

[Wahazar]

Version 7980 published.
Despite of bug fixes, new locomotives and more flexible track types definition (now possible to use external non-standard track types like broad gauge, 25kV catenary etc), custom semaphores and light signals are defined, separate for non-electrified and 3kV DC tracks, 15kV AC tracks (DR/DB style), 25kV AC tracks (CSD style) and broad gauge (USSR style).
In case of JGRPP, programmed signals have additional black display as indicator of existing program.
Multi-asspect signals are also supported, if appropriate newgrf setting is switched on and realistic braking patch is enabled.

Here are examples of normal gauge tracks with semaphores and signals:

[spajdy]

WoW, that is cool!

[Wahazar]

New version uploaded.
New vehicles: modern ST48 diesel, futuristic Hydrail railbus, some semaphores and railtypes fixes.

[Brickblock1]

I Noticed that your trains wont run like intended on tracks other than your own. I Believe this is the source of the issue:

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#define SET_TRACK_TYPE if (param_custom_tracks) {\
 item(FEAT_TRAINS, ITEM ) {\
  property {\
   track_type: SAAa;\
  }\
 }\
} 

#define CURRENT_TRACK_TYPE ELRL

It would be great if you could use the railtype table as a fallback so that for example SAAA vehicles will use elrl if SAAA is not available.

[Wahazar]

But it is only in case of native track set enabled. Trains should go on any tracks if this option is turned off. I hope so

[Brickblock1]

But it is only in case of native track set enabled. Trains should go on any tracks if this option is turned off. I hope so

Yes that is what happens so which is not very good if the player wants to use another trackset that uses multiple voltages. Then all electrics will use elrl and the type of electrification won't mater.

[andythenorth]

Yes that is what happens so which is not very good if the player wants to use another trackset that uses multiple voltages. Then all electrics will use elrl and the type of electrification won't mater.

Is the case that you want to use V4 tracks *and* additional railtype grf(s) together?

[Wahazar]

Yes that is what happens so which is not very good if the player wants to use another trackset that uses multiple voltages. Then all electrics will use elrl and the type of electrification won't mater.

Is the case that you want to use V4 tracks *and* additional railtype grf(s) together?

I doubt it is good idea to mix two track sets.

[Brickblock1]

Yes that is what happens so which is not very good if the player wants to use another trackset that uses multiple voltages. Then all electrics will use elrl and the type of electrification won't mater.

Is the case that you want to use V4 tracks *and* additional railtype grf(s) together?

No i wanted to run the v4 trains on an other trackset but the vehicles will only use elrl then and that means i can't use all features of the trains.

[andythenorth]

Perhaps a case for this var?

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railtype_available()

[Brickblock1]

Perhaps a case for this var?

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railtype_available()

I believe it is easier to raplace ELRL with 15kvAC and place this in the railtypetable.

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15kvAC: [SAAa, SAAA, ELRL]

[Wahazar]

Honestly, I didn't tested V4 with external railtypes supporting different voltages, I will give a look.

[Wahazar]

Version 8222 uploaded to Bananas.
Custom rail type is now chosen by checking railtype_available instead of param_custom_tracks setting.
I checked with some third-party tracksets, it works somewhat, for example if 25 kV track is defined as SAAD, V4 25kV locomotives will go on that track.

[Argus]

I can't send MU trains.
It keeps telling me that they need at least three cars, but a train with ten cars won't even leave.

[MagicBuzz]

Version 7980 published.

Hello,

Have you a standlaone release of your tracks?
I'm working on a french trainset and I need those tracks :
- 1,5 kV DC
- 3 kV DC
- 15 kV AC
- 25 kV AC

Your set currently only lacks 1,5 kV DC and it would avoid me to create my own...

[Brickblock1]

Hello,

Have you a standlaone release of your tracks?
I'm working on a french trainset and I need those tracks :
- 1,5 kV DC
- 3 kV DC
- 15 kV AC
- 25 kV AC

You could use xussr rails instead:
viewtopic.php?t=90493

edit

or just dissable the trains and then the tracks work anyway.

[MagicBuzz]

Hello,

Yes, I tried disabling trains and it worked fine. But this set still lack the 1,5kv DC anyway.

I'm trying with USSR trackset. I think it will be more adapted as it currently already contains all the needed voltages (and not useless ones).
But in the other hand this trackset is nicer IMO. I don't like the way the USSR tracks looks like narrow (or I can't setup the set correctly?).

[Wahazar]

xUSSR track are narrow because were drawn realistically, up-to-scale.
Standard (Open)TTD track are much wider than should be if compared to the train size.
But well, whole OpenTTD world is not scaled proportionally.

PS. You can reuse my nml code for tracks to make your custom tracks with 1.5kV system.
Or you can use Belgian track, those have 1.5kV DC and 25kV AC, if I remember correctly.