JGR's Patch Pack

[Eddi]

If the game is already set to kilometers, why is there a conversion somewhere?

it's Complicated(tm)

first, the internal speed units are different for every vehicle type, for example road vehicles go internally at half speed as trains. (effectively this means trains can have higher top speed)
second, the internal speed unit is not "km/h", but "1.6*mph", where 1.6 is almost-but-not-quite the conversion factor from mph to km/h. (this is also a form of rounding error)

[Argus]

Yes, of course, the original TT originated in England. So it still counts miles internally. But why doesn't this error occur even if I change the settings from miles to kilometers?
If I understand it correctly, this is a relatively difficult error to fix.

[yoshitan]

I updated to 0.54.1 (Windows 64bit). I found 2 problems with "AI Settings".

1. The program will crash when I change "Intrval between starting of competitors".

2. The selectd AI for the last slot will not be effective and it will be random.

For example, when I select AI 1, AI 2 and AI 3 in this order, the 3rd AI will be random instead of AI 3.

[Revenge_of_KioTheDev]

question about daylength

is possible to make game run at 1 game day = 1 real minute? or even 1 game month = 1 real hour?

[JGR]

question about daylength

is possible to make game run at 1 game day = 1 real minute? or even 1 game month = 1 real hour?

For 1 game day = 1 real minute, you can set the tick rate to 27 ms/tick, and the day length to 30.
Alternatively, if you switch to timetabling in minutes you can adjust the ticks per minute to whatever value you want.

[Revenge_of_KioTheDev]

question about daylength

is possible to make game run at 1 game day = 1 real minute? or even 1 game month = 1 real hour?

For 1 game day = 1 real minute, you can set the tick rate to 27 ms/tick, and the day length to 30.
Alternatively, if you switch to timetabling in minutes you can adjust the ticks per minute to whatever value you want.

thank you

[TheSleepyMan281]

Hi,

I'm trying to use the Freight train through load feature with an iron ore train of length 20 and a platform of length 6. I can't find a setting anywhere though to tell the train to use it. How do I use the feature?

Ty

[chrissykes]

Hey JGR, I've been using your patch pack for years and really enjoy the extra bits that are added and I keep stumbling upon features that have been there for years.

One question I have is regards to oil wells, I'm not using ISR style industry packs at all and for some reason if I start a new game I don't have any oil wells spawn either at the start of the game or through the years. Is there a particular reason for this?

If you're not using any industry GRF at all, you'll be using the vanilla industries. In which case oil wells do not spawn in game after 1950. They should still be created at map generation time though.

Thats what I thought vut my game started in the early 1800's, and I'm sure there is no oil wells being spawned even in the mid 1850s.

JGR, I checked last night and none spawned at game start nor have any spawned since either. The date on the game is now 1868 so I'd expect them to be there.

[JGR]

JGR, I checked last night and none spawned at game start nor have any spawned since either. The date on the game is now 1868 so I'd expect them to be there.

If you can post your savegame I can take a look at it.

[JGR]

I updated to 0.54.1 (Windows 64bit). I found 2 problems with "AI Settings".

1. The program will crash when I change "Intrval between starting of competitors".

2. The selectd AI for the last slot will not be effective and it will be random.

For example, when I select AI 1, AI 2 and AI 3 in this order, the 3rd AI will be random instead of AI 3.

The first has been fixed.

I can't reproduce the second issue. Is the AI that you've selected fully available? Do you get the same issue with a different AI?

[chrissykes]

JGR, I checked last night and none spawned at game start nor have any spawned since either. The date on the game is now 1868 so I'd expect them to be there.

If you can post your savegame I can take a look at it.

See attached, i was wrong on the year. I can fund the oil well industry perfectly ok. Also let me know if your missing some GRF's as some are manual copy over to the folder and are a PITA to locate online.

I also have been running tests with 3x openttd games running simultaniously.

• 1x with the same GRF list and new generated map, 1x Oil Well on map generation and no new wells within 15 years.
  1x with the UK Town and industry removed, 1x Oil Well on map generation and no new wells within 15 years
  1x with no additional GRF's, 1x Oil Well on map generation nd no new wells after 5 years

[yoshitan]

I updated to 0.54.1 (Windows 64bit). I found 2 problems with "AI Settings".

1. The program will crash when I change "Intrval between starting of competitors".

2. The selectd AI for the last slot will not be effective and it will be random.

For example, when I select AI 1, AI 2 and AI 3 in this order, the 3rd AI will be random instead of AI 3.

The first has been fixed.

I can't reproduce the second issue. Is the AI that you've selected fully available? Do you get the same issue with a different AI?

Thank you for your response.

I'm attaching the screenshots.

I have 7 AI files in "content_download\AI" folder.
I selected AdmiralAI, AAAHogEx and ChooChoo, but AdmiralAI, AAAHogEx and NoNoCAB started. The 3rd AI is different every time I start the new game.

[Nathkel]

Gameplay is so much better with this pp, and i rarely have any problems, that its unusual when i have to report one...

Using JGRPP 0.52.1 (no need to upgrade just yet), and one of your many features is the ability to refit at station. Im having a problem with eGRVTS v2.0 - r188 using FIRS 3.0.12 cargoes.
I have a tricky multiconditional order between points where an articulated truck refits to milk, takes another station to implicitly unload at a dairy, then while it's there, refits to food, and takes that directly back for implicit unloading at a hotel (near a rail station), and restarts this cycle. Only two points of travel.
The first vehicle i was using, it worked perfectly — the Access Refrigerated Truck. But when i needed a faster, bigger vehicle i used the Edding Articulo with Refrigerated Trailer. The Edding would not refit to food (but it would refit to milk if i started with food). I tested it with the Mettler Archer reefer, and it also does not refit to food. So it seems the Station Refit does not work consistently with articulated vehicles.

Is this a JGRPP problem, or do i need to report this to the eGRVTS author, or perhaps the FIRS thread?

[JGR]

JGR, I checked last night and none spawned at game start nor have any spawned since either. The date on the game is now 1868 so I'd expect them to be there.

If you can post your savegame I can take a look at it.

See attached, i was wrong on the year. I can fund the oil well industry perfectly ok. Also let me know if your missing some GRF's as some are manual copy over to the folder and are a PITA to locate online.

I also have been running tests with 3x openttd games running simultaniously.

• 1x with the same GRF list and new generated map, 1x Oil Well on map generation and no new wells within 15 years.
  1x with the UK Town and industry removed, 1x Oil Well on map generation and no new wells within 15 years
  1x with no additional GRF's, 1x Oil Well on map generation nd no new wells after 5 years

You're using the "Station's name from nearby industry" industry GRF, which changes the behaviour of the various oil industries, for one.

[JGR]

Gameplay is so much better with this pp, and i rarely have any problems, that its unusual when i have to report one...

Using JGRPP 0.52.1 (no need to upgrade just yet), and one of your many features is the ability to refit at station. Im having a problem with eGRVTS v2.0 - r188 using FIRS 3.0.12 cargoes.
I have a tricky multiconditional order between points where an articulated truck refits to milk, takes another station to implicitly unload at a dairy, then while it's there, refits to food, and takes that directly back for implicit unloading at a hotel (near a rail station), and restarts this cycle. Only two points of travel.
The first vehicle i was using, it worked perfectly — the Access Refrigerated Truck. But when i needed a faster, bigger vehicle i used the Edding Articulo with Refrigerated Trailer. The Edding would not refit to food (but it would refit to milk if i started with food). I tested it with the Mettler Archer reefer, and it also does not refit to food. So it seems the Station Refit does not work consistently with articulated vehicles.

Is this a JGRPP problem, or do i need to report this to the eGRVTS author, or perhaps the FIRS thread?

It's because the leading part of the vehicle has 0 capacity. This doesn't work in vanilla OpenTTD either.
This should be fixable.

Edit: This is fixed now.

[Nathkel]

I can think of only one emoji for you right now:

[chrissykes]

If you can post your savegame I can take a look at it.

See attached, i was wrong on the year. I can fund the oil well industry perfectly ok. Also let me know if your missing some GRF's as some are manual copy over to the folder and are a PITA to locate online.

I also have been running tests with 3x openttd games running simultaniously.

• 1x with the same GRF list and new generated map, 1x Oil Well on map generation and no new wells within 15 years.
  1x with the UK Town and industry removed, 1x Oil Well on map generation and no new wells within 15 years
  1x with no additional GRF's, 1x Oil Well on map generation nd no new wells after 5 years

You're using the "Station's name from nearby industry" industry GRF, which changes the behaviour of the various oil industries, for one.

Yes indeed that's why I tried without any grfs and I still didn't get any more spawning. Interestingly I got the same situation in openttd vanilla. I also tried the distance for oil industries from edge setting it both at min and max.

[Walter Novotny]

I don't even know how the game broke, but it could be something important.
Log:
https://megawrzuta.pl/files/b49c04ce460 ... 4a2904.log

[JGR]

I don't even know how the game broke, but it could be something important.
Log:
https://megawrzuta.pl/files/b49c04ce460 ... 4a2904.log

This is fixed in the most recent release.

[OzTrans]

I'm trying to use the Freight train through load feature with an iron ore train of length 20 and a platform of length 6. I can't find a setting anywhere though to tell the train to use it. How do I use the feature?

Under settings, turn on 'Show advanced loading features'. You may also set the maximum speed while loading.
-AND-
When adding the order, click on 'far end' (or whatever it shows) until it says 'through load'.

That is all, see below ...

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