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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:36 pm 
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hahaha. No. Longitudinal seats are the worst.
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We've had them for ages, on the Class 378s, they're horrid.

If you're strapped on the iron-board type for 3 hrs, then yes.

Otherwise, a very good compromise between peak-time capacity, accessibility and a chance to sit on a sofa.

They work well on our 2 hrs long route in extra-cramped peak hour service carrying up to 1000 people (train about 200 m long) - on empty times you can sleep down on the long benches.

Maybe you should ask the japanese to give you those comfy long benches they have on their commuter stocks.

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Top of the vertical railings should be a luggage rack.
Why? These are designed for short, commuter journey's, not really much of a luggage requirement.

We have them on our commuter stock, handy if your job involves moving pretty large stuff.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:55 pm 
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YNM wrote:
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Top of the vertical railings should be a luggage rack.
Why? These are designed for short, commuter journey's, not really much of a luggage requirement.

We have them on our commuter stock, handy if your job involves moving pretty large stuff.

Most people's jobs have the stuff already at them. At most, you're normally carrying a laptop in a rucksack if you're taking the train. For anything bigger, you'd probably drive anyways.

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Maybe you should ask the japanese to give you those comfy long benches they have on their commuter stocks.

No thanks, as the trains will then probably come with a dodgy front windscreen that the driver can't see out of. Don't trust the Japanese to build a good train at the moment!

Ironing board seats in the IETs and fishbowl windscreens on the Class 385s; And these are supposedly the best the world can get?!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:22 pm 
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Pilot wrote:
Most people's jobs have the stuff already at them. At most, you're normally carrying a laptop in a rucksack if you're taking the train. For anything bigger, you'd probably drive anyways.

You could get a pan of pizza intact in a cramped train with the racks. And you can stuff more people in without their luggage occuoying the same level (well, pretty hard for everyone's luggage I think).

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Maybe you should ask the japanese to give you those comfy long benches they have on their commuter stocks.

No thanks, as the trains will then probably come with a dodgy front windscreen that the driver can't see out of. Don't trust the Japanese to build a good train at the moment!

Ironing board seats in the IETs and fishbowl windscreens on the Class 385s; And these are supposedly the best the world can get?!

Depends on the orders I think... they still do pretty comfy stuff.

Something they made 40 years ago...


... And something they're still making.


It really depends on the orders.

And for facepalm time, what we have ordered for our MRT :


They complained about the looks, and they forgot the bloody benches ??!?

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Two new transport companies started over the weekend here in the UK. VTEC became LNER and National Express Midland Metro became West Midlands Metro.


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Great North Western Railway (GNWR), a sister company of Grand Central, have been given approval to run 5 services per day (with an option for a sixth) between Blackpool North and London Euston, calling at Poulton-le-Fylde, Kirkham & Wesham, Preston, Nuneaton and Milton Keynes Central. Services are expected to be formed of Class 91s and 6x Mark 4 passenger carriages and a Mark 4 DVT, that are expected to be ready to enter service by September 2019, released from LNER duties having been replaced by Azuma's.

The service will be operating alongside the VTWC service that is also running between Blackpool and London, which operates 4 times per day, bringing the total number of Blackpool - Euston services up to 9 per day, with a potential for a 10th. The GNWR services will be limited to 110mph due to a lack of tilting equipment on their expected stock.

Source: Alliance Rail Holdings

I'm quite excited for these services, and I can see myself finding new, weird and wonderful ways down to MK for meetings! I'm also hopeful the two services will be timed in such a fashion to allow a frequent, well spread service between the two for most the day, instead of two services in direct competition with one another.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:27 pm 
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Those trains are the bane of my working life.

I hate them with a passion.

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Oh, I can imagine! I'm just hoping they haven't stolen the big gap heading North between Rugby and Nuneaton, passing Brinklow at about 1336. I love to use that gap, it's brilliant for getting up that stretch of the WCML at 60mph.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:48 am 
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