Iron Horse trains - releases

[andythenorth]

I've retrospectively added ">= 13.1" to the OpenTTD version check in Bananas.

There's nothing in the Horse grf to enforce this, but Bananas should restrict which OpenTTD clients it makes the grf available to.

Not sure what that does for JGRPP users though?

[Emperor Jake]

It doesn't show up anymore in JGRPP, but there is the option in Bananas to set a JGRPP version as well

[Skarfester]

I use Debian as well and I encounter the same problem with other newgrfs. 13.1 is not even in Sid, so I'm afraid we'll have to wait or try the binary.

[andythenorth]

Iron Horse 3.2.0 now on bananas.

3.2.0 Release

Not savegame compatible with Iron Horse releases before 3.2.0.


Changes

• Doineann is no longer replaced by Blackthorn, and will be available perpetually after introduction
• added additional liveries for
  • Vigilant
  • Lemon
  • Esk
  • Mainstay
  • Vulcan
• tweaked yellow Saxon livery to be more yellow
• added black livery for randomised dump cars and hopper cars
• Gargouille is introduced a little earlier
• Falcon is now replaced by Rapid, not Onslaught, meaning Falcon no longer has very short period of availability
• removed run cost malus for Vulcan, Dragon, Falcon, Defiant and Relentless
• extended vehicle life of certain engines, mostly 'robust' electric locomotives, but also some steam and diesel locomotives
• Slug power is increased slightly and now matches Centaur exactly
• Dynamo power is increased slightly

Fixes

• corrected wrong colour pixels in one livery for Swift
• passenger coaches weren't properly aware of vehicle variants and were showing brake coaches when they shouldn't

Codechanges

• switch lang files to TOML format

[2TallTyler]

\o/

[Revenge_of_KioTheDev]

Iron Horse 3.2.0 now on bananas.

3.2.0 Release

Not savegame compatible with Iron Horse releases before 3.2.0.


Changes

• Doineann is no longer replaced by Blackthorn, and will be available perpetually after introduction
• added additional liveries for
  • Vigilant
  • Lemon
  • Esk
  • Mainstay
  • Vulcan
• tweaked yellow Saxon livery to be more yellow
• added black livery for randomised dump cars and hopper cars
• Gargouille is introduced a little earlier
• Falcon is now replaced by Rapid, not Onslaught, meaning Falcon no longer has very short period of availability
• removed run cost malus for Vulcan, Dragon, Falcon, Defiant and Relentless
• extended vehicle life of certain engines, mostly 'robust' electric locomotives, but also some steam and diesel locomotives
• Slug power is increased slightly and now matches Centaur exactly
• Dynamo power is increased slightly

Fixes

• corrected wrong colour pixels in one livery for Swift
• passenger coaches weren't properly aware of vehicle variants and were showing brake coaches when they shouldn't

Codechanges

• switch lang files to TOML format

thank you for your efforts i always play with iron horse in my game

[skc]

Iron Horse 3.2.0 now on bananas.

I've just loaded up OpenTTD for the first time in quite a while, and seen this update to Iron Horse being available.

I started a new game, and got an error, which might be because I'm still running OTTD 13.0:

Iron Horse 3.2.0 fatal error, OTTD 13.0

Iron Horse 3.2.0 Fatal Error.png (31.1 KiB) Viewed 5348 times

This seems to be the same error that I got with Iron Horse 3.1 (albeit with a different sprite flagged):

Iron Horse 3.1.0 fatal error, OTTD 13.0

Iron Horse 3.1 Fatal error.png (20.96 KiB) Viewed 5348 times

Yes, I am aware of all the various options regarding updating to a newer version of OTTD, but it's not a 'big thing' for me at the moment - I have no qualms about compiling it and packaging to a .deb to allow me to 'dpkg -i' it if 13.5 should make an appearance.

[PikkaBird]

This seems to be the same error that I got with Iron Horse 3.1

And you're surprised that your outdated game that couldn't run this grf three months ago still can't run it? What was the point of this report?

[Argus]

This is not a bug, but expected behavior. Your version of tycoon doesn't support the new feature yet, which is basically what the message says.

[andythenorth]

I've set the minimum requirement in Bananas to OpenTTD 13.4 for Iron Horse 3.2.0. This should prevent the issue recurring in future.

[skc]

This is not a bug, but expected behavior. Your version of tycoon doesn't support the new feature yet, which is basically what the message says.

Expected behaviour when installing a newGRF from within the game is that it will work seamlessly with the game - so getting this error message is NOT expected behaviour.
However, it would be reasonable for a creator of a newGRF to be aware that not everyone will be running a version of the game that supports the features they are using, and therefore would specify appropriate minimum requirements.

This seems to be the same error that I got with Iron Horse 3.1

And you're surprised that your outdated game that couldn't run this grf three months ago still can't run it? What was the point of this report?

No, I'm not at all surprised, as I knew that I wasn't able to run IH 3.1 with OTTD 13.0. I made my post for the sole purpose of making Andy aware that he appeared to have overlooked a step when he uploaded IH 3.2 to Bananas - namely the 'minimum version' field not set appropriately.

I have previously stated my 'reasons' for not running a version of OTTD later than 13.0, and those reasons haven't changed since IH 3.1 was released.

[Argus]

Edit: I'm sorry for the error when inserting the text
have you read the previous posts?

I've retrospectively added ">= 13.1" to the OpenTTD version check in Bananas.

There's nothing in the Horse grf to enforce this, but Bananas should restrict which OpenTTD clients it makes the grf available to.

Not sure what that does for JGRPP users though?

If you can still download it, the fault is probably more with Bananas.

[WolfRamXx]

Četl jste předchozí příspěvky?

I don't think he can speak our language...

I've set the minimum requirement in Bananas to OpenTTD 13.4 for Iron Horse 3.2.0. This should prevent the issue recurring in future.

I'd bet that Banana will show it in outdated JGRPP versions still. Then again... i have no idea how this game works so maybe not.

[Argus]

I don't think he can speak our language...

Thanks for the heads up, I pasted the wrong version of the text.

[WolfRamXx]

I don't think he can speak our language...

Thanks for the heads up, I pasted the wrong version of the text.

Mistakes happen

[andythenorth]

Iron Horse 3.3.0 now available on Bananas.


"The horse is a creature of many moods, but when he is happy, there is no animal on earth that can match his joy." - Unknown

3.3.0 Release

Not savegame compatible with Iron Horse releases before 3.3.0.

Late-game express vehicles revamp

• express rail vehicles from generation 5 onwards (around 1990) now have 120 mph as their maximum speed (previously 105 mph then 125 mph in 2020)
• added driving cabs, passenger coaches, restaurant cars and mail vans that can use dedicated high speed rail, and have 140 mph maximum speed
• enabled Avenger and Sizzler engines to use dedicated high speed rail (at 140 mph)
• increased Helm Wind speed on dedicated high speed rail to 155 mph
• removed multiple generation 6 vehicles as they had stats very close to a generation 5 equivalent, including:
  • passenger coaches and mail vans (most of their liveries moved to generation 5 vehicles as variants)
  • Blackthorn freight diesel (identical to Grid; livery moved to Grid as a variant)
  • Super Shoebox (Ultra Shoebox now introduced earlier and stats adjusted)
  • Scorcher HST (Blaze HST now faster; Scorcher liveries moved to Blaze as variants)
  • Bright Country express railcar (liveries moved to Olympic as variants)

Narrow gauge vehicles revamp

• narrow gauge vehicles from generation 3 onwards (around 1960) now have 60 mph as their maximum speed (previously 55 mph then 65 mph in 2010)
• added engines:
  • Alfama 0-4-4-0 Mallet steam engine, 600 hp available around 1900
  • Tyrconnel 4-8-0 steam engine, 900 hp, available around 1905
  • Nile 2-6-0+0-6-2 Garratt steam engine, 900 hp, available around 1920
  • Solano diesel engine, 900 hp, available around 1960
  • Rockhampton diesel engine, 1200 hp, available around 1964
  • Hinterland diesel engine, 1200 hp, available around 1964
• Bean Feast moved to generation 1
• Boar Cat moved to generation 3
• removed generation 4 vehicles including:
  • Maximillian diesel
  • Snapper railcar
  • Zorro railcar moved to generation 3, Workish railcar removed
  • generation 4 wagons and coaches removed

Changes

• small railcars now have 2 length variants:
  • 10/8 twin-unit with combined mail and passenger capacity
  • 6/8 single unit, passengers-only
  • when one of each length is combined, the result is a 1-tile long multiple-unit railcar for pasenger and mail service on branch lines etc
  • vehicles changed:
    • Mumble
    • Clipper
    • Skipper
    • Zipper
• set Zipper railcar to 99 mph maximum speed
• some diesel engines now have variants offering 1 or 2 units, (mostly for convenient replacement of other vehicles), including
  • Kelpie, Foxhound, Griffon, Lynx
  • Chinook, Withershins
  • Pikel, Boar Cat
• added new vehicles
  • non-streamlined mail driving van trailer (1990)
  • heavy duty wagons with 35 mph maximum speed, but twice the capacity of equivalent normal wagons
    • heavy-duty flat wagons for both narrow gauge and standard gauge
    • heavy duty bulk wagons for both narrow gauge and standard gauge
    • ingot cars for standard gauge
  • generation 4 large open car
  • narrow gauge medium intermodal car
  • narrow gauge acid tank cars
• minor balance adjustments
  • set extended model life for most narrow gauge engines
  • moved freight engines to general purpose / express:
    • Braf
    • Diablo
    • Merlion
    • Centaur
  • reduced running costs for large express steam engines so they can be used for mixed traffic:
    • Hawkinge
    • Pegasus
    • Streamer
  • introduce Autocoach earlier (1900)
  • adjusted Lion heavy freight engine to 3300 hp, 87 mph, to increase its useful lifespan until replaced by Toaster in 2005
  • adjusted Constance power so it's not the same on both diesel and AC electric:
    • 3450 hp on diesel to match similar power band diesels
    • 4200 hp on AC electric
  • adjusted some generation 5 mid-power engines to all have around 2200hp, for easy replacement of previous generation 2200 hp engines
    • Centaur
    • Shredder
    • Slug
    • Viking
  • adjusted some light freight engine power values to account for previous changes in similar engines
    • Little Bear
    • Captain Steel
    • Goliath
    • General Endeavour
  • other minor balance changes
• redrawn Centaur to SNCF broken-nose style, as also used for Portugese CP Rail Class 1930
• additional or improved liveries for
  • Shoebox (multiple liveries)
  • Resilient (DB-style)
  • Grid (multiple liveries)
  • Pegasus (black)
  • Saxon (black)
  • Avenger (white stripe)
  • Chinook (red + company colour)
  • Flanders Storm (added former Triton livery)
• adjusted Magnum 70 appearance
• improved Brenner appearance
• improved appearance magic for multiple unit railcars etc.
• added restaurant car sprite variant for express railcars

Docs

• tweaks to tech tree appearance

Fixes

• Pinhorse run cost was significantly too high
• containers incorrectly positioned when container wagons were flipped in depot

[2TallTyler]

New Horse!

[JohnFranklin523]

\o/

Sad, Gen 4 NG gone...

[Xanth_Oskar]

Are there any plans to reintroduce a 4th generation for the narrow-gauge set?

[andythenorth]

Are there any plans to reintroduce a 4th generation for the narrow-gauge set?

Let’s say I’ve got some links saved to 2010-era narrow gauge vehicles