Kamnet's Sprite Sandbox

[SAC]

Interesting!

I wonder if it would be possible to add such a feature to TTDP codewise! Probably not, and even so I'm sure it would require way to much work to defend the benefit itself. Still, I would have liked it!

[kamnet]

I wouldn't want to see this replace the natural rock water tiles. Speaking of which, I think what would be needed to complement those rock water tiles is a more natural way for the ships to move up and down on the river. The only reason you have a lock is because you've damed up all the water behind it.

[kamnet]

Right now I've done all I can for the dam. I have some doubts that I've got the alignment right. Wallyweb has volunteered to test it as a NewObject for me when he gets chance. I may get a chance to put something else together over the weekend.

[kamnet]

Yeah, I came to the conclusion that the alignment wasn't right. I based it off of a flat tile rather than a slanted tile, and in the end I just don't think it looks right. So I spent a few days doing a complete re-fit. Opinions?

[andythenorth]

I based it off of a flat tile rather than a slanted tile, and in the end I just don't think it looks right. So I spent a few days doing a complete re-fit. Opinions?

I feel your pain. I've run into the same problem drawing tiles for slopes

Looking good. Finish the shading, you'll be pleased with it

[Lord Aro]

*thumbs-up*
much better!

[Bob_Mackenzie]

I rather like them

Needs a roadway going along the top I feel

[SwissFan91]

I think what it needs next is a similar tile but without the two segments that protrude downstreaam? That would allow a much wider dam to be constructed?

[kamnet]

I feel your pain. I've run into the same problem drawing tiles for slopes Looking good. Finish the shading, you'll be pleased with it

Is there a guide for shading anyplace? I looked around and didn't immediately spot one.

I rather like them Needs a roadway going along the top I feel

I thought about it, but for most of these in real life they are too narrow and thin across the top to support a road structure. Plus, with the way TTD runs the road through the middle of the tile, this would have to be a two-tile structure and I think that would be just a little too large. Although I have noticed at a few of these places there are roads that run across the entire lock and dam. Those are much larger structures and that might be a good project to try to pull off, but if there's going to be a road on something it would be nice if it was usable, especially if it could also tap into whatever road NewGRF a player might be using.

I think what it needs next is a similar tile but without the two segments that protrude downstreaam? That would allow a much wider dam to be constructed?

I tried it with shorter segments, and it didn't look quite right for me, mainly because of the way the slopes play into things. I think to really do it the way you'd describe, I'd have to build three types of dams, one with a left/top segment, one with a right/bottom segment, and then one without any of the structures, and that's just too much work for me! Although I suppose I could just draw them and leave it to the coder to write it up so that it detects if the object is next to or between two of the same objects and put in the appropriate graphic. I'll have to think on that. Or, I could just leave it the way it is and let another artist take some liberty with it.

[maquinista]

I actually made the suggestion to SAC a few months ago about creating a dam. She said she'd consider it but couldn't fit it into her current development schedule. Originally when I was thinking of dams I was thinking of large gravity dams such as Hoover Dam. These smaller damns just happened to catch my attention today and I figured I'd give it a go.

Speaking of which, here's another revision. I realized why I was so frustrated the first time around, it's because I was trying to use Paint.Net for pixel editing and it really isn't suited for that at all. I dug up good 'ol MS Paint and gave that a spin, I think that resolved most of my issues. Gave a little follow-up in Paint.Net to add the water graphics.

The attachment hydrodam-screen2.png is no longer available

I have made a preview:

[kamnet]

Thank you for that screen shot, I think it confirms that a flat tile won't cut it.

Can you try using this new PCX file with my more recent graphics?

I think what it needs next is a similar tile but without the two segments that protrude downstreaam? That would allow a much wider dam to be constructed?

After thinking about it a few days, I think I will eventually release this as a 1x1 tile, to build small dams, and as a 1x3 tile for larger ones.

[michael blunck]

I have made a preview [...]

"Dams" can be directly placed on river slope tiles now:

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This is a new feature of TTDPatch r2331:

- Added: Building objects on water now preserves the water bits, and restores the water tile on removal.

BTW, what´s the correct Spanish term for "Hydro-electric power plant"? "Central hidráulica"?

regards
Michael

[kamnet]

That, sir, is beautiful! Did you just draw that recently, or have you had that one saved for awhile?

[michael blunck]

That, sir, is beautiful! Did you just draw that recently, or have you had that one saved for awhile?

Thanks. This one has been drawn over a year ago. I just adapted it for slope tiles when Lakie improved the newobjects code last week.

This particular model is intended for early years and flat areas. I have two more "dam" models lying around, one in modern style, and a "high" dam. The latter will need quite some more investment in drawing/coding to fit seamlessly into sloped areas (it uses 2 height levels).

regards
Michael

[maquinista]

I have made a preview [...]

"Dams" can be directly placed on river slope tiles now:

barrage.png

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Nice dam. I like it.

BTW, what´s the correct Spanish term for "Hydro-electric power plant"? "Central hidráulica"?

regards
Michael

Yes, It's a correct term.

[kamnet]

That, sir, is beautiful! Did you just draw that recently, or have you had that one saved for awhile?

Thanks. This one has been drawn over a year ago. I just adapted it for slope tiles when Lakie improved the newobjects code last week.

This particular model is intended for early years and flat areas. I have two more "dam" models lying around, one in modern style, and a "high" dam. The latter will need quite some more investment in drawing/coding to fit seamlessly into sloped areas (it uses 2 height levels).

regards
Michael

That's great, I'd like to see those, especially your current concept for a high dam. I've been pondering over that one myself.

[ZxBiohazardZx]

This particular model is intended for early years and flat areas. I have two more "dam" models lying around, one in modern style, and a "high" dam. The latter will need quite some more investment in drawing/coding to fit seamlessly into sloped areas (it uses 2 height levels).

regards
Michael

damn sexy work there michael

[el koeno]

Or replace the sloped river tiles with this dam.

A larger dam could work fine as Object. Or maybe even as industry. Imagine a hydro-electric dam accepting water

Sorry to be a bit OT here, but I think they would be just fine in tropical, producing water.

[LaDoncella]

BTW, what´s the correct Spanish term for "Hydro-electric power plant"? "Central hidráulica"?

regards
Michael

Yes, It's a correct term.

shouldn't be "Central hidroeléctrica"?

[maquinista]

BTW, what´s the correct Spanish term for "Hydro-electric power plant"? "Central hidráulica"?

regards
Michael

Yes, It's a correct term.

shouldn't be "Central hidroeléctrica"?

The two words are correct. Maybe "Central hidroeléctrica" is more specific.

Better Central hidroeléctrica.