REQ .... 85 class and 86 class electrics

[montanna.27]

85 CLASS

Builder Commonwealth Engineering, Granville, NSW
Build date 1979–1980
Total production 10
UIC classification Co′Co′
Gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in)
Wheel diameter 1,250 mm (49.21 in)
Wheelbase 14.40 m (47 ft 3 in)
Length Over headstocks 17.73 m (58 ft 2 in),
Over coupler pulling faces: 19.00 m (62 ft 4 in)
Width 2.960 m (9 ft 8.5 in)
Height Over stowed pantograph: 4.305 m (14 ft 1 in)
Axle load 20.5 tonnes (20.2 LT; 22.6 ST)
Locomotive weight 123.0 tonnes (121.1 LT; 135.6 ST)
Electric system(s) 1500 V DC
Current collection method Overhead, two pantographs
Traction motors Mitsubishi MB-485-AVR (6 off)
Top speed 130 km/h (81 mph)
Power output One hour: 2,880 kW (3,860 hp),
Continuous: 2,700 kW (3,620 hp)
Tractive effort Continuous: 222.00 kN (49,908 lbf) at 45 km/h (28 mph)
Career New South Wales Government Railways
Number 8501–8510
First run 9 July 1979


86 CLASS

Builder Commonwealth Engineering, Granville, NSW
Build date 1982–1985
Total production 50
UIC classification 8601-8649: Co′Co′
8650: Bo′Bo′Bo′
Gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in)
Wheel diameter 1,250 mm (49.21 in)
Wheelbase 15.40 m (50 ft 6 in)
Length Over headstocks: 18.73 m (61 ft 5 in),
Over coupler pulling faces: 20.08 m (65 ft 11 in)
Width 2.950 m (9 ft 8 in)
Height Over stowed pantograph: 4.400 m (14 ft 5 in)
Axle load 19.80 tonnes (19.5 LT; 21.8 ST)
Locomotive weight 119.0 tonnes (117.1 LT; 131.2 ST)
Electric system(s) 1500 V DC
Current collection method Overhead, two pantographs
Traction motors Mitsubishi MB-485-BVR (6 off)
Top speed 130 km/h (81 mph)
Power output Comtinuous: 2,700 kW (3,620 hp),
One hour: 2,880 kW (3,860 hp)
Tractive effort Continuous: 222.00 kN (49,908 lbf) at 45 km/h (28 mph)
Career State Rail Authority of New South Wales
Number 8601–8650
First run 15 March 1983

[C3805.]

Would be very nice indeed, but I think Hammo is going to cover it in the foreseeable future with his topic.

[Badger]

These are class 85s and 86s .......

[Hammo]

haha Badger, he means the NSW class 85s and 86s . Probably should have been mentioned in the first post or topic title, but I figured it out when I noticed that the builder was listed as Comeng...

Would be very nice indeed, but I think Hammo is going to cover it in the foreseeable future with his topic.

err... maybe. we'll see. If I do, it'll be because I'd be doing the 442/80/81 class locos. Keep in mind that I haven't even got the first coal hoppers out yet. (lack of time, more than anything - we'll see what happens over the next few weeks)

But perhaps I should look at getting some 81/82/90 classes done afterwards to haul them. The 86 class at least should be fairly similar to the 81 class. just a few minor modifications (panto mainly) should need to be made there.

[montanna.27]

these are australian electrics not british and i have found a few aussie 80/81/82/442 around just not the 90 or 85/86

[Hammo]

Yes, I know that you're alluding to the Aussie stock released at the fanpage. I use it myself... but most of it is pixellated beyond recognition. Granted, those locomotives are pretty much the exception to the rule. I still don't like the difference between the 80 and 82 liveries, despite both being FC. Also, the older liveries might be nice

[Badger]

haha Badger, he means the NSW class 85s and 86s . Probably should have been mentioned in the first post or topic title, but I figured it out when I noticed that the builder was listed as Comeng...

these are australian electrics not british and i have found a few aussie 80/81/82/442 around just not the 90 or 85/86

No concept of sarcasm in Aussie-land then
Bet you don't realise all those classes of train you've mentioned have featured on UK lines in the last 20-odd years.

[flint]

Actually, montanna, you can try making them your self.
I just wish all of these requests wouldstop filling up the forum.

[Badger]

I just wish all of these requests would stop filling up the forum.

And I wish people would leave the moderating to the moderators. Stop back-seat moderating.

[flint]

I just wish all of these requests would stop filling up the forum.

And I wish people would leave the moderating to the moderators. Stop back-seat moderating.

Hi,
Please dont be rude.
Thanks,
Flint
I hope no one will see this text.

[Badger]

Unfortunatley it's not your place to ask people how to behave here. It is mine however. I wasn't rude, I just got straight to the point. And yes, everyone can read that text.

Let's get back on-topic please.

[Hammo]

No concept of sarcasm in Aussie-land then
Bet you don't realise all those classes of train you've mentioned have featured on UK lines in the last 20-odd years.

I could see the sarcasm there (hence the )... maybe I should have added "you 'fewl' " after Badger in that sentence after all...

But as I'm on uni 'holidays' as of 5 hours ago, I'll see what I can do on this. Still plenty of more important things to do first though. The real world is a tough mistress.

[Badger]

I could see the sarcasm there (hence the )... maybe I should have added "you 'fewl' " after Badger in that sentence after all...

Sorry, it wasn't aimed at you!

[montanna.27]

i would love to try and make them myself but i lack the ablity and knowledge to do it all ... i know how to edit things like the speed horsepower etc but not making the graphics and stuff like that

[Illegal_Alien]

You dont know, or you just dont want to know? As there is plenty of info for making them yourself.

[montanna.27]

a few hints in the right direction would be good

[Opan]

There is a sticky, on all sorts of 3d modeling programs that you can download. Sketchup, Blender are free, and 3dsm is not, unless you are a student. All these programs will take some time to understand and look around the web, there are plenty of tutorials. And both programs except for sketchup, can render their own sprites. Start with that and see where you get.

[Hammo]

I've had the benefit of coming to the table already knowing how several 3D programs work. The hardest thing conceptually is getting into the mindset of creating objects in 3D. different programs approach this in different ways, so the best idea is to pick a program, and get to know it. Don't pick up a program and "start making a train" - you will get yourself confused and frustrated. Start off simple. Make a cube. Add extra shapes to this cube. Or take some away. Learn about the different ways of generating solid objects.

You also have to have an idea about how to build your model. What shape it is and what shapes you'll need, how you'll generate those shapes to bring everything together. Just forget about sprites and rendering for now, and learn how to make 3D models first (in your program of choice). Baby steps. Don't rush anything.

[montanna.27]

is there like a problem with private msgs cause i cant send any ... anyways hopefully we will have sum up very soon!

[Illegal_Alien]

Works fine for me, or you have been ignored