Problem with trains that won't load

[kombi]

Hi!

I have a problem with trains that will not load and just stand there, see picture. How may I fix this problem?

-Kombi

[DaleStan]

You give us more information.

Like version numbers. Configs. Savegames from before the trains arrive at the station. And the like.

[kombi]

Ok

Version of TTDX configurator 2.8.8 2.5 beta 9

Configs that might affect it:
First in first out loading option

Hmm.. not sure what you mean by savegames, but i have had the problem since i started the game, it goes up and down, sometime its works and sometime not. But it's often at som station no mather if i load the game again...

[SHADOW-XIII]

can you:
- check the detail of the train to be sure that wagons are for wood (despite graphics they can say to carry something other)
- try using Cht: ResetStation over that station and see if it will fix the problem

[kombi]

Hi again, and sorry for the late answer.

I checked the wagons and they where alright, + that the problems are in more stations. I also tried to use the cheat, but it didn't work
Any other sugestions?

-Kombi

[Rob]

Try "cht: resetfifo"

[kombi]

Thanks Rob, but it didn't work

It's allways some station that dosent work, but if i turn off "full load" they work.. hmm.. I also tried different configurations in TTDXC.

[DaleStan]

Define "didn't work". What happened? What did you expect to have happen?

[kombi]

I'd expekt the trains to start loading, but they didn't. But i kinda fixed the problem when i turn of FiFo, so i think i'll just stick with that

Thanks for all the help guys!

[DaleStan]

What else did or didn't happen? Specifically, did a checkmark or an X appear in the sign? If not, then either you mistyped the cheat, or you have signcheats off.

[kombi]

The checkmark did apear so i must have typed it the right way, some stations strated to work again, but still there was allways some that didn't

[DaleStan]

Well then, your problem is that you've got trains leaving to go to the depot and then they can't get back into the station to finish loading. Add go to or service at depot orders, or make your stations wider.

[kombi]

I see, but what do you meen by make the station wider? like more tracks?

[DaleStan]

Yes. As opposed to "longer", which would mean to make the platforms, well, longer, so you can get a ... longer train into the station.

Sorry, I can't find my thesaurus today.

[White Rabbit]

The checkmark did apear so i must have typed it the right way, some stations strated to work again, but still there was allways some that didn't

I'd expekt the trains to start loading, but they didn't. But i kinda fixed the problem when i turn of FiFo, so i think i'll just stick with that

Thanks for all the help guys!

To fully understand why this happens and how to deal with it, there are a few things you need to know...

FiFo stands for 'First in, First out'. It makes sure that trains are loaded in the order they arrive at the station. If train 1 arrives first, train 2 second, and train 3 third, then they will be loaded in that order. For more information, see http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php ... ifoLoading
Note the paragraph about glitches. If train 1 leaves the station before it's fully loaded, none of the other two trains will be loaded, because the station is still waiting for train 1. The wiki page doesn't mention it, but everything will be restored to normalcy once train 1 again returns to the same station. With a large station and many trains, however, it's hard to know which train is which.

The 'cure' for this problem is cht: resetfifo. The 'prevention' is to not allow any trains to leave before they're fully loaded. Since FiFo is very useful (and IMO a desirable in a game), it's best to know how to prevent FiFo problems, rather than sweep the feature neatly away under the carpet and never think of it again.

There are two ways a train (that has full load orders) can leave without being fully loaded. The first is manual intervention by the player, and the second is a need to get serviced in the middle of the loading process. To prevent trains from doing the latter, you need either 'service at' or 'go to' orders. It's very simple. Usually, the depot order is placed last: Station A -> Station B -> depot
Station A is the loading station, and station B is the unloading station. With depot orders, FiFo loading becomes practically foolproof.

[kombi]

Aha, i understand

Thank you all for the help guys, you have been most helpful!

Cya, Kombi

[bolle]

hey i have got the same problem and i use ttd patch 2.5 beta 3

[DaleStan]

I'm assuming you read through the whole thread, and did all of the suggested debugging?

What happened after you did each of the items suggested in this thread, and where are your saves and configs?