GNER to go!

m3henry · Post by **m3henry** » 08 Apr 2007 08:16

jpmaster wrote:Its 41% Virgin and 39% Stagecoach now that GNER have the 10% stake.

90%? does that mean BR runs the remaining 10%?

Brianetta · Post by **Brianetta** » 08 Apr 2007 10:52

http://fictitiousliveries.fotopic.net/p32194770.html

A shame that there are no dressed-up class 91s on that site.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » 08 Apr 2007 11:26

Maths off the top of my head sucks, i apologise.

jonnie47 · Post by **jonnie47** » 08 Apr 2007 11:37

the intercity livery looks good!!!

Post by **Dave** » 08 Apr 2007 11:47

Yeah... JP meant 46% and 44% + 10% stake that GNER would have.

Bear in mind this only takes effect if Virgin/Stagecoach win the ECML franchise. I'm still thinking they might well not.

If they win the ECML, they almost certainly won't win the XC.

Although semi-nationalisation is maybe what this country needs. One company to control all Anglo-Scottish routes?

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 08 Apr 2007 11:52

Dave Worley wrote:Although semi-nationalisation is maybe what this country needs. One company to control all Anglo-Scottish routes?

Lets just hope it is a half decent company that is more interested in the customer experience than making money. GNER are/were good in that respect.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » 08 Apr 2007 12:09

Brianetta wrote:http://fictitiousliveries.fotopic.net/p32194770.html

A shame that there are no dressed-up class 91s on that site.

http://fictitiousliveries.fotopic.net/p26299687.html
You'd think the man to the right of the HST would notice it keeps spontaneously changing livery.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 08 Apr 2007 12:19

jpmaster, it would certainly explain his pose, and the way he is looking at it

.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » 08 Apr 2007 12:23

Raichase wrote:jpmaster, it would certainly explain his pose, and the way he is looking at it .

lol, good point. You can almost imagine him about to scratch his head and go 'wft?'
Though he shock of it all must have frozen him as he never moves.

Post by **Dave** » 08 Apr 2007 12:28

Owen Hodgson = Amazing.

Does so much with these locos.

andel · Post by **andel** » 08 Apr 2007 17:11

I think Virgin deserve the ECML... it would make for the feather in Branson's cap...

Post by **Dave** » 08 Apr 2007 18:14

Yes... Virgin have done well. The only problems I've got with them are the removal of Summer trains from Blackpool, and Liverpool-South other than their Pendolinos.

The main problem enthusiasts have is the fact they replaced all their loco-hauled stock.

But if you use that as a reason, you're obviously gay.

Post by **orudge** » 09 Apr 2007 17:24

Dave Worley wrote:But if you use that as a reason, you're obviously gay.

Because everyone knows gay people are more likely to prefer a loco-hauled train.

Sorry, "gay" as an insult bugs me for some reason, so I felt like commenting. Back on topic...

Post by **Dave** » 09 Apr 2007 18:50

You know by now I mean it in jest.

The truth is that you're actually just a pathetic dreamer if you want to see loco-hauled stock back on the line.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » 09 Apr 2007 18:52

Dave Worley wrote:You know by now I mean it in jest.

The truth is that you're actually just a pathetic dreamer if you want to see loco-hauled stock back on the line.

I suppose its no more different than people paying a hundred odd pound for a railtour so they can be pulled up and down the country by a Steam engine.

Post by **Dave** » 09 Apr 2007 19:00

It is really.

The froth I've heard from people who are like "Bring back 86s/87s/mk3s on the West Coast". It's a joke.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » 09 Apr 2007 19:03

Well you've got a point - certainly if an 87 with a rake of mk3's was involved in the Grayrigg derailment rather than the Pendolino it would have been a lot worse injury wise and i expect then they wouldnt be so keen to have them back on the line.

Post by **Dave** » 09 Apr 2007 19:05

And they're 30-odd/40-odd year old locos that cost a lot of money to maintain.

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 09 Apr 2007 21:10

Well I like the 86s/87s going because it means that the Norwich to London line gets "new" coaches. Well not "new" but new to the GEML. Makes my life a bit more pleasant

andel · Post by **andel** » 10 Apr 2007 07:36

Makes no odds to me - a 390 or a 360 on the GEML means I get some nice space... a 90 on GEML means I get a table and some first class... GNER means I go bankrupt

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