A beginner's problem

collingwood · Post by **collingwood** » 22 Dec 2005 16:48

1. I have downloaded a new graphic set which have the files newgrfw.cgf and some other grf files placed in a folder. So what do I need to do to install them?

2. I've seen some saved games posted here which uses different train sets. Do I need to load the corresponding graphic sets each time to play that game?

3. Can I use all the downloaded graphic sets together in one single game?

Thanks a lot

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 22 Dec 2005 17:00

1.)First of all, the newgrfw.cfg should be placed in the main TTD Patch directory, along with the game. The .grf files should be placed in a folder called 'newgrf' (minus the quotes). Then open up newgrfw.cfg and place the appropriate graphics sets in them in the following way:

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newgrf/set1w.grf
newgrf/set2w.grf
newgrf/set3w.grf
#newgrf/set4w.grf

The '#' disables the set without having to delete it from the config.

2.)As long as they are loaded in the config file, then they will work. Beware, you have to have the correct graphic files for a savegame to work. Eg USSet and USRoads or DBSetXL, Trams and OneWayRoads etc

3.)In short, no... This is because there is a limit to how many slots there are for each indivisual type of thing (trains/houses/landscape etc)
For instance, the major sets such as DBSetXL and USSet, take up all the train slots, so you cant use more than that for the trains. On the other hand, .grf files which contain different things are acceptable, ie USSet (trains), USRoads (roads), TTRS2 (buildings) etc

Hope this helps
James

Rob · Post by **Rob** » 22 Dec 2005 17:37

Apart from the above you also have to activate the grf sets in the "Graphic Status Window" which you can find under the "wrench" icon (second one from the left).

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 22 Dec 2005 23:29

/me looks at the username

Ahh, so another Aussie joins the fray.

Welcome to the invasion.

collingwood · Post by **collingwood** » 23 Dec 2005 07:26

Thanks. Here are some more questions. Hope you won't find me annoying.

1. How do you load the graphics into the config file?

2. Save games here have names like trp60_200.sv1 but mines are like TRT03.SV1. However when I change the 'trp' back to 'trt' I could play it. Is this normal?

3. I remember in the original TT industries have only around a thousand ouput max, even after the year 2050. Is it true that in TTD you could see factories producing a hundred thousand goods per month?

Again, many thanks.

Post by **WWTBAM** » 23 Dec 2005 11:57

you need to put

newgrf/grf1.grf
newgrf/grf2.grf

Also for games you download from here yo need to remove the last numbers after the underscore including the underscore but before the .sv1

Flamelord · Post by **Flamelord** » 24 Dec 2005 02:22

And for #3, yes, it is possible. But you must set up your stations and routes properly in order to get a factory to produce that many goods.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » 24 Dec 2005 06:49

Like this.

collingwood · Post by **collingwood** » 29 Dec 2005 08:27

Here's a problem encounted when using pre-signals

Is this setup correct?
Thanks

Uwe · Post by **Uwe** » 29 Dec 2005 09:22

collingwood wrote:Here's a problem encounted when using pre-signals

Is this setup correct?

Well, I can't really see a problem there, since there is no description of what the problem actually is. But what I see is a wild mixture of entrance-, exit- and combo-signals, and they are all two-way - which will not work as expected.

To get useful results, you should start using one-way signals, then figure out the different signal types and their meanings, and finally take a look at PBS-signalling. The link in my sig might help a bit with that.

Greets,
Uwe

collingwood · Post by **collingwood** » 29 Dec 2005 09:53

Thanks.

Actually, there is a main backbone (from right upper corner to the lower side) that consists of three lines which allows double direction access. About five or six trains uses the track, and a 'loop' is made for waiting trains. (since the tracks lead to a terminal station where space is limited) The loop could be entered from both sides.

It seems ok with two or three trains but I don't know whether it'll work with full capacity.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » 29 Dec 2005 09:56

A bit OT, but a tunnel like that underneath an ironore mine isn't very realistic.

pmhtuk · Post by **pmhtuk** » 29 Dec 2005 10:17

collingwood wrote:Thanks.

Actually, there is a main backbone (from right upper corner to the lower side) that consists of three lines which allows double direction access. About five or six trains uses the track, and a 'loop' is made for waiting trains. (since the tracks lead to a terminal station where space is limited) The loop could be entered from both sides.

It seems ok with two or three trains but I don't know whether it'll work with full capacity.

The only thing I can see is that it looks like a maze - and some trains will get lost when you get to full capacity

Where does that line at the back go to? (The one under the mine?)

If possible, try and sort the trains before they arrive at this junction, and where possible, as a "golden rule" which I use, don't let a track junction reach over two tracks as it'll slow down the rest of the network. [More trains waiting at signals as the track section is blocked with another train]

collingwood · Post by **collingwood** » 29 Dec 2005 10:34

It goes back to a point on the main line...And again, it accepts trains entering the loop from both sides...

To Rob: What does 'OT' mean?

Here's the game. Modification is welcomed.

Post by **WWTBAM** » 29 Dec 2005 10:37

collingwood wrote:It goes back to a point on the main line...And again, it accepts trains entering the loop from both sides...

To Rob: What does 'OT' mean?

Here's the game. Modification is welcomed.

OT means off topic.

pmhtuk · Post by **pmhtuk** » 29 Dec 2005 10:43

I'll have a look at your saved game, Collingwood, however the thing I meant is shown below...

pmhtuk wrote: don't let a track junction reach over two tracks as it'll slow down the rest of the network

meaning, let less trains get congested:

(If you already knew about this already, discard this post!)

pmhtuk · Post by **pmhtuk** » 29 Dec 2005 10:52

collingwood wrote: Here's the game. Modification is welcomed.

Right, I'd have to spend ages modifying the entire system, as you've used too many "normal" signals.

Try building a system of one-way tracks to sort the traffic - there are some massive issues near stations where trains are just queuing everywhere.

See image for the change made - this sorts the issue instantly!

If you'd like an example of a saved game, i'll find one that you can look at. In the meantime, look at the Scenario "Scotland" which is already installed on your system. Take a look at the Blue Company's system which uses one-way signals to keep trains in order.

collingwood · Post by **collingwood** » 29 Dec 2005 11:14

Yes, I know, because I was trying to convert the normal signals to some pre-signals. Anyway, thanks.

jonty-comp · Post by **jonty-comp** » 29 Dec 2005 14:02

pmhtuk wrote:menaing, let less trains get congested:

I've gone one step further and added in the latest patch features

:

pmhtuk · Post by **pmhtuk** » 29 Dec 2005 19:02

A Beta option, I assume?

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