New Industries for TTDPatch

[Born Acorn]

N E W . . . I N D U S T R I E S

Latest versions here and here

NFO Coded entirely by Dalestan and drawn by me. Thanks go to orudge for kickstarting the project and epsilon for starting it

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The Water Desalinisation plant is found only in tropical. It produces water. It replaces nothing

This Oil fired Power plant is found in all three climates, and requires Oil. It replaces nothing

This is a graphics replace for the TTD factory.

Dos and Win versions below

[Aegir]

Neato Born. Good to see the oil plant finally released. They're definatly going into my five TTDPatch newgrf setups.

[zero1000]

really nice!
now i can improve all my coal power plant to more modern oil power plant

[jacke]

Very nice indeed !
If I have this grf loaded, will these industries be placed on a randomly generated map (I guess not) ? Or do I have to buy them from the "fund new industry" window?

[Born Acorn]

Very nice indeed !
If I have this grf loaded, will these industries be placed on a randomly generated map (I guess not) ? Or do I have to buy them from the "fund new industry" window?

They will be randomly generated, yes

[jacke]

Ok, nice Have to try this later when I'm on windows
Btw, how many total "slots" are there for (new) industries ?

[Aegir]

Ok, nice Have to try this later when I'm on windows
Btw, how many total "slots" are there for (new) industries ?

Jacke, Wine 20041201 will run TTDPatch quite nicely. All you have to do is add the reg settings manually to ~/.wine/system.reg

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[Software\\FISH Technology Group\\Transport Tycoon Deluxe] 1115452306
"DisplayModeNumber"=dword:00000003
"ForceDIBSection"=dword:00000000
"FullScreen"=dword:00000001
"HDPath"="C:\\MPS\\TTWin95\\"
"Installed"=dword:00000003
"Language"=dword:00000000
"MidiType"=dword:00000001
"MousePointer"=dword:00000000
"RetraceSync"=dword:00000000
"SafeMode"=dword:00000000
"UpdateMode"=dword:00000001

Make sure that in your fake C drive that you use the same directory path listed above. Or atleast change the reg settings.[/code]

[jacke]

Thanks for the info Aegir !
I once had ttd+patch running in wine, after following a ttd-in-linux guide written by Sordid(or what was his name?). I think I'm gonna set it up in linux again now.

[Aegir]

Yes, just make sure that you compile Wine from source. And DONT use a build from 2005. None of them work. 20041201 is the last working version.

Look in Ibiblio's Linux software archives (Under ALPHA) for the tarballs of source.

Hope that helps.

[DaleStan]

Btw, how many total "slots" are there for (new) industries?

There are a total of 37 industry slots. Each slot can have a different definition in each climate.

I am perfectly willing to code more industries, though at some point we may want to start doing this correctly: discussing which industries we want, getting them drawn, and then coding them all into the same GRF file.

Those GRF files don't really show the full power of the new industry feature:
- The same industry can have multiple shapes/sizes
- Industry tiles (like houses) have 4 construction states
- Industry tile appearance can change depending the industry's construction date, the current date, ground type, randomly, &c.
- Industries can be coded to only appear at certain times in the game.

We cannot animate new industries yet, but Csaboka is working on that.

[Hitperson]

could you get an oil power plant that runs on oil from refineries (of course you will need a new refinery) because it would be more real then running on crude oil

[SuperTycoon]

I think new industries need a co-ordinated approach, else we will create chaos. Can new caargo types be added? I think we should completely plan a new industry structure, then different people can go away and draw different sets (like with the trainsets) but the basic structures and cargo types remain constant, else it will get too confusing

[DaleStan]

We cannot add cargo types (except possibly one in artic where there are only 11) and I would prefer not to touch the cargo types anyway, except in conjunction with a vehicle replacement set. Changing the cargo names (the only thing that can be changed, AFAICT) won't break anything, but changing eg "Livestock" to "Wine" may cause some confusion.

I do not intend to code anything that does not use the current cargo types, but I am willing to remove/replace the old industries.

@lost: No. That would require a new cargo type.

[Born Acorn]

Its not possible to add new cargo types but i did hear somone was working on that.

[hovering teacup]

can i hack this thread for more general questions about the new industries ?


a bug: the twelfth cargo type in the temperate is available in refit only with the more-industries-per-climate switch on. with no doubt the 'or' cargo, disabled in the alpine, should be unavailable in refit in that climate (here i have no prob because i have vehicles set to that cargo by default).


a bug: the chemney of electric plant dosn't fume if the new grf is activated when it becomes complete... ie. it's ok if you found it with the grf on and then turn it off and wait till its construction is terminated.


a bug: farm's building (barns -- the tiles 23 and 24) becomes the coal mine's wheel tower when the farm is served...


a question: is there the table of colour code for the property 19 of the action 0 feature 0A ?


a question: is there any way to put the smoke that's from the chemney of electric plant on other tiles ?


a question: is there any way to limit the apparition of certain industry to tiles near the water (water everywhere, not only near the edge of the map) ? and similarly, to prohibit certain industries on the desert and the snow ?


a question: is there any way of linking the production amount of an industriy type to the town population nearby ? or alternatively, to keep the production per industry the same, and the number of the industries in question proportional to the town population ?



i'll post more as find more problems. thanks for reading

[DanMacK]

I was discussing with Csaboka on IRC the possibility of splitting the factory into 3 separate industries...

1. Factory - Receives Steel, produces goods
2. Brewery - Receives Grain/Wheat, Produces goods (or food)
3. Packing Plant - Receives Livestock, produces goods (or food)

I've doodled up a basic structure for the packing plant, obviously it's far from don. (I'm adding another bit of building behind it so it'll be 3X4)

I've also started a brewery

[DaleStan]

For the bugs, post a demonstrating savegame, cfgs, &c.

a question: is there the table of colour code for the property 19 of the action 0 feature 0A ?

Yes. It is, of course, on the action 2 feature 7/9 page (about halfway down), so the fact that you couldn't find it is understandable.

a question: is there any way to put the smoke that's from the chemney of electric plant on other tiles?

Not per se. Once animation is added, it can be done that way, though.

a question: is there any way to limit the apparition of certain industry to tiles near the water (water everywhere, not only near the edge of the map) ? and similarly, to prohibit certain industries on the desert and the snow ?

No on the first; I think so, but it's not pretty on the second.

a question: is there any way of linking the production amount of an industriy type to the town population nearby ? or alternatively, to keep the production per industry the same, and the number of the industries in question proportional to the town population ?

No.

Of course, these "no"s don't preclude the possiblility of someone adding that feature.

[Born Acorn]

New fenced versions here soon.

Thats a cool Packing plant DanMacK

[jacke]

DanMacK: Nice

Aegir: I got it working by using the 2004-12-01 version of wine(versions from 2005 didn't work, like you said), and it runs quite well The only issue is that the KDE panel is shown in the lower right part of the screen, and I can't get rid of it.

[G-Klav]

Cool new industries!

Do they work for all languages?