change construction cost setting ?

[sobo]

is it possible by Cht or other mean to change the difficulty setting "construction cost" in an existing game ?

its set to High and I find it impossible to get a performance rating of 6 on the avg on trains in the DBset XL, with an engine easily costing 50 mio €

[DaleStan]

Yes.
However, you seem to be confused about the difference between "construction cost" and "vehicle running cost".

[sobo]

No im actually talking about the construction cost (construction of tracks, stations, new vehicles and that stuff)

the vehicle running cost in TTD is joke in no matter what setting

[krtaylor]

the vehicle running cost in TTD is joke in no matter what setting

Try the US set, you may find that more challenging.

[sobo]

that was only a statement beside the point though.. Thx for the recommendation anyway.

But is it possible to change the vehicle cost anyhow?

[DaleStan]

that was only a statement beside the point though

Please don't do that, unless prefixed with an "OT:" or similar. The only thing it'll achieve is to confuse the people who read your message.

[krtaylor]

But is it possible to change the vehicle cost anyhow?

Yes, in the GRF encoding. Otherwise not.

[sobo]

But ive got a savegame from Rob using the DBsetXL, his vehicle costs are FAR less, so its actually possible getting a rating greater than 0 or 1 on them ..
So with the same set the contruction cost obviously varies, and I wondered whether it could be changed without starting a new game ?

[SpComb]

Click on the "Difficulty settings" button in the TTD main screen, and then change "Cost of Construction" (or something close to that) as appropriate. This cannot be done in-game, however, it is possible to load your savegame in the scenario editor, change it there, and then re-load the game. This brings other everse side effects, however, such as the AI getting your old company, and you forming a new one, and your station graphics getting messed up.

[DaleStan]

I believe if you <CTRL-click> on the save menu you get save/load game instead of save/load scenario.

I've never tried it, but I understand it's supposed to fix the problems you are listing, SC.

[sobo]

thx Dale, that worked, I could change the construction cost setting. However trains still cost ridiculously much

Isnt there any any difficulty setting determining the cost of vehicles? i though construction cost included that

[krtaylor]

At the time the US set was coded, we used a hack to allow for very large prices. Part of the side-effects of that hack was that the cost settings don't actually change anything. In the next version, I think perhaps we may not have that problem, but I'm not sure.

[Korenn]

thx Dale, that worked, I could change the construction cost setting. However trains still cost ridiculously much

Isnt there any any difficulty setting determining the cost of vehicles? i though construction cost included that

I think the setting only determines the cost of trains when they're introduced. if they're in the game already you're out of luck. Only thing you could try then is Cht: resetengines (did I get that right?)

[sobo]

im not using the US set krtaylor
the resetvehicles cheat did apply to the game properly but did not change anythign (after i set the setting to low in the game editor)

Did maybe the aplha 42 update of DBsetXL introduce these ENORMOUS costs to trains ? does anyone else experience them

[Raichase]

Yes, Michael wanted to make the game more challenging by making the locomotives more expensive - it worked, now everyone can't just re-fit their fleet to the BR103 when it is created.

[sobo]

ot: well i find its only possible to get scores >6 with the old electric engines that have 40+ years of lifetime :\
so nerfing the new engines like that is a bit over the limit, well ill just ignore the performance rating then.