New South Wales Rail Set[Testers Needed!]

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 26 Oct 2005 00:30

hey there, excuse me for being ignorant and slightly annoying at times (like these), but where's that awesome grass from your signature, coalroads? i mean, that simply looks too awesome, having a complete Australian TTDL makeover.

coalroads artist · Post by **coalroads artist** » 26 Oct 2005 00:38

Its still coming along after i finnish more of the trains off the list.More progress was made a while back with more trees and embankments.Just have to do water egdes and rock formations.Should be released with proper ausset grf.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 26 Oct 2005 00:47

awesome! well, it looks fabulous... although i'd give the rails another go if i were you, make them a little more realistic. but yes, i am extremely looking forward to seeing this set completed! keep up the good work!

coalroads artist · Post by **coalroads artist** » 26 Oct 2005 00:52

The rails are silver on top for railhead and rust colour underneath for rail body,i think it is a improvement on realism onthe original grey ones IMO.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 26 Oct 2005 01:04

I like the rails, although I wouldn't mind an extra sleeper or two

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Actually, the best rails I have ever seen were the ones that Coalroads did with the light grey ballast. See the picutre to the far left of his signature, if you don't know the ones I mean.

Those ones are rippers!

I'll get onto the original G/T livery now, after I dump some more sprites here. I've finally finished the M-Set, and the OSC's. Massive amounts of kudos to Purno for the base sprites, I think the nose is PERFECT, and apart from painting some of it blue (for the OSC's), I didn't muck with it at all.

Thankyou again to Purno for the base sprites, as well as all his help with me along the way.

coalroads artist · Post by **coalroads artist** » 26 Oct 2005 01:18

Raichase your a sprite factory at the moment

.Mad work there.Good to see the ausset is up to date with the real railway system as the only place i have saw the OSC was at Goninans yard being pulled out of the sheds by a rail tractor after completion.

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 26 Oct 2005 10:51

Awesome work Raichase!

James

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 26 Oct 2005 11:42

coalroads artist wrote:The rails are silver on top for railhead and rust colour underneath for rail body,i think it is a improvement on realism onthe original grey ones IMO.

well, what i meant was the rails having too high contrast opposed to too little shading and colour variety. i'll try to explain later, maybe with a graphic.

coalroads artist · Post by **coalroads artist** » 31 Oct 2005 04:52

I know what you mean astath but i like having shiny rails but i might have a look at bit later as i will tweak the ballast a little anyway first, before release.
Been crook last couple of days so not much progress except 81s a nearly completed.I also included a container load in a nody to show the other work that i will have to complete some day soon. :roll:Also the variant for s wagons (will do wood load for u wagon later).

Post by **WWTBAM** » 31 Oct 2005 05:17

i had a problem with the first dubbledecker carrige as it is shown as an oil tanker in the buy menue and the news item.

BobDendry · Post by **BobDendry** » 31 Oct 2005 07:26

If you'd read the name you would find that the graphics were a placeholder.

Flavius · Post by **Flavius** » 03 Nov 2005 00:53

Recently i have been researching Australian steam locomotives with a view to plugging year gaps and add any interesting steam if found.

As a result, i have been able to place Mikado's earlier in the scene ie 1929!
See link:
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~ajh/trai ... index.html

These VR X Class Mikado's were designed to be on converted to standard guage if desired.
Just needed a bogey change i think. Been unable to find the specifications
so far. Keep you posted.

Kajifox · Post by **Kajifox** » 05 Nov 2005 00:45

I'm sorry to push this, but I've been watching for a while, as I was kinda hoping to contribute some VR and SAR stuff I have enough photographs of in my Australian Railways magazines to draw from.

But I can't help asking -- How has this gone from an Australian set all the way down to just being NSW and Queensland, with a small dash of ANR/CWR stuff?

Victoria, Tasmania, South Australia, WA -- all have their own unique locomotives, but a thick spat of bickering has excluded them. Why?

And what's the guff I heard a while back about "nothing in Victoria being noteworthy" or whatever it was, when up until the fourties, NSW used nearly exclusively Bayer Peacock, and Victoria was using stuff from as far away as Belgium, New Jersey and stuff built at a foundry in Ballarat?

There's nothing else in the country like the rolling stock in Tasmania, either, with it's rugged and thick-set narrow gauge gear, so why exclude that?

Just because they run on different rails here in the real world, doesn't mean there can't just be a broad/standard gauge, broad/standard electric and narrow gauge set of options -- that's just being far too picky, even if we are all model railroaders at heart -- I sincerely doubt you guys make your own broad gauge, scale track and adjust the wheels of your model V-line or SAR gear.

If HO, and HOn3 is good enough for the real world, why isn't it good enough for here?

Come on, folks -- the US railway system was far, far more vast than anything we ever dreamt of having, despite being mostly a single gauge, and they made a single set for that -- it's nearly reached final, too. Can't we see something like that instead of just a "Standard gauge set"?

I want to help, I really do, I'd love nothing better than to help, and then to call stations by names with "atta" and "gai" through them, than to see black locomotives at the head of a rust-brown set of coaches across an australian-reformed landscape, but I don't have the resources on NSW and QR gear -- So why split it up?

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 05 Nov 2005 00:50

It would be interesting to see those s***-can Railcar 2000/2100/3000/3100's in TTD. I could make them turnup late, with no-where near enough room for passengers, and then randomly run some poor fool down.

Eh, or just make them smash into each other

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Kajifox · Post by **Kajifox** » 05 Nov 2005 00:52

They're pretty much the only early DMU's you're going to have, I'd reckon, unless you wanted to include the Victorian "McKeen" cars -- which had motors in them for about ten years, and then ended up as carraiges.

EDIT; I correct myself. They were PMU's. Petrol powered!

Aegir · Post by **Aegir** » 05 Nov 2005 00:59

Kajifox wrote:They're pretty much the only early DMU's you're going to have, I'd reckon, unless you wanted to include the Victorian "McKeen" cars -- which had motors in them for about ten years, and then ended up as carraiges.

Heheh, yeah, and we're still using those hunks of crap. The Railcar 2100's (Yellow nose) never get used much, they all sit in yards outside Adelaide station. The 2000's (Orange nose) sound like whales as they run, groan like crazy. The newer 3000/3100's are all still running.

Just how old are they anyway?

Kajifox · Post by **Kajifox** » 05 Nov 2005 01:28

From what I can see, Red Hens are 50's, and 2000/2100s are ... seventies?

God, only in the 1970s could something that loud, and slow, have been made. *nod*

Post by **WWTBAM** » 05 Nov 2005 02:31

the reason we have stuck to standard gauge is because it would look odd to have other gauges running on ttds tracks but maybe when we get all the standard gauge stuuf done we might be able to have some narrow gauge stuff since there are tracs for them.

Kajifox · Post by **Kajifox** » 05 Nov 2005 02:48

But that's just the thing. In real modelling, compromise has been made, take HO for instance, where everything, just about, is modelled on "standard gauge". It's really not that much of a stretch, considering it's how it's done in real modelling, is it?

We're talking about a gauge which is in such a small, pixel-driven format it really doesn't make much difference between Standard and Broad -- Narrow makes sense, but excluding Broad gauge entirely just doesn't work.

Kajifox · Post by **Kajifox** » 05 Nov 2005 03:05

C'mon -- I mean, look at the set list -- Lots of grey shapes and revisions in there, spots that could be filled with more worthy locomotives, don't you think?

What about the SAR 4-8-4's, or the S-class streamliners? The L-class electric surely deserves a place, or the E-class butterboxes (No need to have the butterbox and the steeplecab, that's pointless). The M-class shunting motor for short movements, or the SAR railcars, the H class, and filling spots way back in the setlist, what about the Belgian R-Class, the American R-Class? The D? The SAR RX class that lived well into the 1970s?

The huge, pointless Victorian C-class, the most underused locomotive in the fleet? The classic Tait sets made in Bendigo, where electric powered rail didn't even exist? Surely you can see what I mean, there's lots of milestones outside NSW...

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