[Tour] ***RARE*** Abandond Cincinnati Subway

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[Tour] ***RARE*** Abandond Cincinnati Subway

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Today I will take you onto a tour of the Cincinnati Subway, Which was never used to to lack of funding. The Subway used to run into my last post about The Cincinnati Terminal, The Subway still stands untouched for about 50 years. Untill now, With the cincinnati museum offering tours once a year! The Following picture where taken June 2010. The subway was STARTED in 1916, and ENDED in 1925. It If EXTREMLY rare to see this. This place has been ruled as the top ten Little seen places in the USA.

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The Race St. Station has a large island platform, as well as complicated trackwork to either end.
Two sets of staircases descend to the platform from the Parkway's landscaped median above.
There is no mezzanine level, and it is unclear as to where fares were to have been collected.

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This is a view from one of the staircases looking across the middle of the platform
to the opposite staircase. From this direction, the view is in line with the Parkway alignment,
and Race St. intersects left to right, centered above this location. The staircase at center
descends to never-finished pedestrian concourses to buildings lining the parkway.

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This is a view of the east stub track, which ends directly behind the east staircase to the surface.
The Race St. Station is symmetrical, and another stub track is located on the west
side of the platform, ending behind the other staircase in the exact same way.

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This is a view of the west stub track. The inbound platform is on the right and outbound
on the left. The inbound and outbound tracks are beyond the edges of the picture. The
staircases to the surface are located about 200ft. east of this point.

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A view of the outbound track and platform edge, along the north wall of the station, looking east.
The inbound track along the south wall is occupied by the ubiquitous water main.

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Looking down at the never-finished concourse to nearby buildings.
In this photo the stairs look very small, but judging by the skid, it looks like
the staircases are 10ft. wide.

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At either end of the station, the subway is 3 tracks wide.
This photo was taken west of the station, looking towards it, with the outbound track
at left, the center stub in the middle, and the inbound track (and water main) at right.

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Looking east, between the Race St. Station and the Plum St. turn.
Provisions for a passing siding along the north side of the station visible at
left. Another platform might have been intended for this siding.

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Standing near Walnut St., looking west back towards the Race St. Station.
The opposite end of the passing siding can be seen at center.

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The stubs down Walnut St. are at right, and the single track Y and
water main are at left.

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The Walnut St. stubs end at this brick wall. The Race St. station is 2 blocks west.

No work was ever done on the crucial Walnut St. tunnel. The
8th/9th St. station was to have been located 2 blocks south of this point, and
the Fountain Square Station 8 blocks from this point.

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Hopple St. Tunnel portals. I-75 visible at left. The Wooden gate have been torn down and construction is in place to seal it off with cement.

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At the dead-end, looking back towards the portals.

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This room at the north end of the platform stretches almost to the
platform edge.

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Looking up the sidewalk staircase.

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This water filling the outbound tube near the Linn St. station
is about 18" deep

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Looking up one set of the inbound platform's staircases.
The other set has been sealed off at the bottom.

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Looking east, the subway is three tracks wide at this point.

I hope you enjoyed these rare photos.


Check out my other RARE tour HERE: [Tour] ***RARE*** 2 Abandoned train tunnels + 2 bridges
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Oh now this is truly fantastic. I love places like this. Gets my urban explorartion sense tingling.

You say the place was never used; Do you really mean that no passenger services ever ran? The whole thing was just a total folly?
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Sadly yes, In some places rail where never placed, The only people to go inside this are contruction workers and Museum Tourist. (Excluding the moron people who graffitize it) No Passanger cars where ever placed.
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Now that's something amazing, thanks for showing us! So it looks like on the rare tour of it you get to see quite a bit. Why was the project abandoned? Did they run out of money? It looks like quite a lot must have been spent never to open it.

There are abandoned tube stations in London of course (and perhaps other subway cities?), but sadly LU let people in less often nowadays, although the former Aldwych station is still used for filming stuff sometimes. There's also an abandoned tram tunnel in London.
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Yes, They ran out of funding in 1925, And only about 10 tourist are allowed in the subway a year.
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Really nice pictures, Howat and a good story-telling too :).

Are there plans to resurrect the subway with the growing concern for the environment?
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No, This is just useds as a passage for water main lines now.
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What really killed the Cincinatti subway was the first world war. Most of the work show was completed before the US became involved in the war. When the city tried to resume work after the war, postwar inflation made the cost baloon well beyond what had been budgeted. By the time the city was in a position to fund such a project again, the age of the car and suburban sprawl had come, making a subway fairly unattractive to the city's planners. The tunnels were never deemed suitable for anything other than a subway, so they have been left alone (a provision for use of the right of way for the water main was that it be redundant and movable at the the utility's expense should the tunnel ever be put to its intended use).

Its projects like this that us public transit enthusiasts in the US both lament and hold out eternal hope for...


Howat: thanks for your pictures. Being originally from Ohio, I have read about the Cincinatti subway for years, but have never seen such extensive depictions.

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rochester also has an abandoned subway system, from the 50's though. and unfortunantly, due to structural concerns, the last mile of tunnel has been filled in
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WOW!!!! 15,000 Views??? Samo. Pics?
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Really interesting.
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Samo, Do you have those pics?
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Still a great post! Thanks for getting me to take another look.
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(sorry about delayed post)
No problem. I'm hoping to get more locations from where I live :)
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Howat123 wrote:No, This is just useds as a passage for water main lines now.
This is really, really sad. Why don't they do it up and use it? It couldn't cost more than $1,000,000 surely?
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Well, it would cost MUCH more. They only finished the "Tunnels" about 1/2 way. Even if this WOULD be revamped, it would cost like, $87,000,000 (My Guess)
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Did you just pluck that out of your head? I didn't know about the tunnels though, so yeah it would be A LOT more than my first guesstemate of $1,000,000.

But, today we have much better construction methods and you could probably use a TBM (tunnel boring machine) which would get the job done fairly easy.

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Yes, But the fact that the 2 farthest "ends" are about 30-40 miles away from each other, Would make it pricey.
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I mean if you had $10,000,000 would you do anything else? :o I am also wondering... who does it belong to now? Still the State?

Hmm... This could be used for anything really... all that cool undergroundness...
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