3d ottd

graphics_master · Post by **graphics_master** » 13 Jul 2006 17:15

As there is already 3D models why not use them ?

It would make it better but all I can say is go 3 d and it will use it's classical touch.

danharibo · Post by **danharibo** » 13 Jul 2006 21:36

graphics_master wrote:As there is already 3D models why not use them ?

*Cough* High polly

mikk36 · Post by **mikk36** » 14 Jul 2006 00:07

danharibo wrote:
graphics_master wrote:As there is already 3D models why not use them ?
*Cough* High polly

Dynamic LOD ?

XeryusTC · Post by **XeryusTC** » 14 Jul 2006 16:34

danharibo wrote:
graphics_master wrote:As there is already 3D models why not use them ?
*Cough* High polly

*Cough* Shaders

Korenn · Post by **Korenn** » 15 Jul 2006 09:09

danharibo wrote:
graphics_master wrote:As there is already 3D models why not use them ?
*Cough* High polly

polly? want a cracker with that?

those models do have a too high poly count, and the textures are too detailed. but it's probably less work to tone those down, than to do completely new ones.

fyredefyre · Post by **fyredefyre** » 18 Jul 2006 07:18

Take the scenario of Worms 2D vs. Worms 3D - The transition was a good idea, but simply just did not work. In fact..it blowed. Perhaps one day TT will become 3D, but lets hope it takes time..time to perfect it.

There's nothing worse than playing a dissapointing sequel!

Korenn · Post by **Korenn** » 18 Jul 2006 12:02

TT already HAS 3d gameplay, as someone pointed out.

what we're talking about here is 3d graphics, nothing else.

achilleas999 · Post by **achilleas999** » 18 Jul 2006 13:24

all games that i loved which have gone 3D, pretty much lost some fun of the gameplay, age of empires, rollercoaster, bomberman, super mario, WORMS.. and many many more

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » 18 Jul 2006 13:34

command and conquer. especially since it requires a numpad to rotate, and i don't have 1 on my laptop.

nicfer · Post by **nicfer** » 18 Jul 2006 20:55

I prefer 2d gameplay with 3dish graphics. As achilleas999 says, lots of games lossed fun with the 3d-ing. The 3d games are generally more difficulter than play than 2d games. Look for example Locomotion: a total mess in gameplay! While in TTD building a straight track is simply a click and a drag and drop, in LoMo you have to make several clicks! Long live 2d with 3dish graphics OTTD!

dphoenix · Post by **dphoenix** » 18 Jul 2006 21:02

bobingabout wrote:command an conquer. especially since it requires a numpat to rotate, and i don't have 1 on my laptop

Just buy an external USB one.

XeryusTC · Post by **XeryusTC** » 18 Jul 2006 21:18

UnderBuilder wrote:Look for example Locomotion: a total mess in gameplay!

LoMo is also 2D, but it uses the same engine as Roller Coaster Tycoon, which is fine for making a roller coaster, but not for a complicated rail network. It is just a difference in gameplay, not in dimensions.

Ben_Robbins_ · Post by **Ben_Robbins_** » 19 Jul 2006 01:20

command and conquer generals was 3d, but I never ever needed it. It was completly pointless in my opinion. I just stuck on the default veiwing angle, and it was fine.

On transport tycoon wouldnt it look really strange to have squares line up to the screen when you rotate 45' degrees around, and still be in an orthographic (none perspective) view?

Thalass · Post by **Thalass** » 19 Jul 2006 02:42

I think that OTTD doesn't really need full 3d, as you see in Sim City 4 or something. But perhaps being able to rotate through four 90° angles would be good. That would keep the isometric view constant, and would allow you to see around things. The only problem then is that you have to redraw the map, and have extra sprites (that problem should be solvable with the new graphics).

And, of course, that's what transperant buildings is for

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » 19 Jul 2006 08:16

bobingabout wrote:command an conquer. especially since it requires a numpat to rotate, and i don't have 1 on my laptop

WTF happened to my post!!!! thats not what i posted!!!

dphoenix wrote: Just buy an external USB one.

why the hell would i do that? my laptop has PS2 ports. but any external keyboard defies the definition of "Portable".

KING · Post by **KING** » 21 Jul 2006 07:00

command and conquer generals was 3d, but I never ever needed it. It was completly pointless in my opinion

try maps with a big cliff where you can't see the bottom. It does have it's uses.
And the aircraft and tanks are much better and smoother because they can move in all 360 degrees.

But perhaps being able to rotate through four 90° angles would be good

That means we need 3 more sprites for every buildig and every construction stage.
Also the game has to redraw the whole map every time you rotate. That could cause a massive slow down on large maps.

bobingabout · Post by **bobingabout** » 21 Jul 2006 08:31

i think 90 degree rotation is planned for some stage in 32bpp. they have on the requirements that every building needs a 4 view.

gkirilov · Post by **gkirilov** » 21 Jul 2006 11:07

The 3d game(economics) I had the most fun with was(and still is) the Industry Giant 2. I would like to see the OTTD in such 3d "world", without losing anything from the gameplay.
The Ind.Giant2 is much like OTTD(TTD) except the complicated junctions.

Korenn · Post by **Korenn** » 21 Jul 2006 11:29

industry giant 2 was a total let down...

it looks great, definitely the view that ottd 32 bit should try to achieve, but the gameplay was horrible. no 45 degree tracks, crappy junction support, no height difference, etc.

graphics_master · Post by **graphics_master** » 21 Jul 2006 11:31

It would be hard to implement a drag and drop system if 3d because just look at black and white 2 it is really hard to drag and drop a staraight road inless you have the same 4 directions of track as ttd does.

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