Tycoon Competition - Sorry!

[Pete Humble]

Quoth "Trikky" <tri...@bigfoot.com> in alt.games.microprose.transport-tyc:

I will return on January 3rd (hope Delta Airlines and the airports have
the Y2K problem fixed). The current competition is nearly at the end
right now so if we begin the new one by say next week, then I can set
an end date for the competition to be like November 30th or
thereabouts. How about it? And this time we will be playing the
Arctic. How about it?

Hmm...Most people don't play that quickly.......I personally cold have it up
to 2050 in a week but I don't others could.....
Btw I like the Artic choice....

I'm lucky if I can get enough time to do 10 years a week, so I'd never be

able to take part in competitions....
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_ \<,_ Email: peet AT dircon DOT co DOT uk
(_)/ (_) Any resemblance between the views expressed here
============= and those of my employers is pure coincidence.

[Rémi Denis-Courmont]

Trikky <tri...@bigfoot.com> a écrit dans le message :
7uvhop$4d...@epos.tesco.net...

Edward Bernard <Edw...@ebernard.greatxscape.net> wrote in message
news:7ut4tp$lqj$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
I would say the 'sequel' should be in the millenium. Or earlier maybe?

I think we should wait till this one is finished and we have a confirmed
winner.

I know it's too early to start discussing it, but what map should we
have
Arctic/Desert/ToyLand?
I would like to play on an Artic map, and I'm not the only one, I think.

It would be good if we had a vote!
Good idea.

I would like to have desert myself. I haven't got used to the Arctic
one.
It
costs too much building up all them hills.
We may solve this problem with prizes difficulty settings.

In that case that is why we SHOULD have an Artic one.....Weve just had an
easy 'lets make stupid amounts of money' And lets be honest once you had
money it was just a case of ratings wars.....

This one should be HARD.....And the Artic one is really about playing the
rules....Its harder to start, its harder to beat the AI and its REALLY
hard
to get lots of money just by letting it run for 10 years.

There is no use making a lot of money during the 10 first years, as long as
you don't buy something with it.

Opinions?
Explaining the rules/difficulty settings and giving the map on a single web

page whose URL would be explicited on this NG, that would be good!

--
Trikky

ICQ- 51210676
Tri...@Transport-Tycoon.co.uk

[Ankit Desai]

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:04:33 +0100, "Trikky" <tri...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

Ankit Desai <nospam-ankitpa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tzIUOBW8cOTQdUDKWtOtASJnanBB@4ax.com...
I wouldn't mind hosting it as long as it ends before the month of
December. Why? I am going to India (in US right now) to get engaged.

Yay Congrats!!

I will return on January 3rd (hope Delta Airlines and the airports have
the Y2K problem fixed). The current competition is nearly at the end
right now so if we begin the new one by say next week, then I can set
an end date for the competition to be like November 30th or
thereabouts. How about it? And this time we will be playing the
Arctic. How about it?

Hmm...Most people don't play that quickly.......I personally cold have it up
to 2050 in a week but I don't others could.....
Btw I like the Artic choice....

Well, what we could do is instead of beginning from 1950, have a
scenario start up around 1980 or later still (2000?). Also, taking
into account what Eddie said about contests rising in difficulty
slowly rather than drastically. I think it would be best if we started
on a Desert scenario or maybe even just a regular Tropical scenario.
Another person had stated that he would like the contest's file to be
in one place, on one web site with the web site explicitly stated here
in the NG. No problem with that...

- AnkitPayal

Ooooo have you changed your name (Forgive my ignorance!)

Actually, if you look at my e-mail address I use AnkitPayal there too.
Payal is my fiancee-to-be. Being so head over heals over her, I
attached her name to mine. I am considering a name change to that
though. Oh, I also go by "Kit" sometimes.

- AnkitPayal

[Trikky]

Ankit Desai <nospam-ankitpa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:VBMVOGxg7NYpKho4BnAfy4wMbRWM@4ax.com...

Also, tweaking the Interest Rate as Josef suggested with
opt.dat file seems nice and will add a whole new dimension to our
competition with higher interest rates.

If we ARE going to do this we should make sure that all players don't mind
altering their files........
Also it would be good if Josef printed a step-by-step guide to doing this as
not all people will know how to alter files properly
--
Trikky

ICQ- 51210676
Tri...@Transport-Tycoon.co.uk

[Edward Bernard]

Explaining the rules/difficulty settings and giving the map on a single
web
page whose URL would be explicited on this NG, that would be good!

That's what all competitions do don't they?
Our current comp does that. It makes it a lot easier

Eddie

[Rémi Denis-Courmont]

Pete Humble <spamf...@peet.at.dircon.dot.co.dot.uk> a écrit dans le message
: 381da59f.102368...@news.dircon.co.uk...

Quoth "Trikky" <tri...@bigfoot.com> in
alt.games.microprose.transport-tyc:
Hmm...Most people don't play that quickly.......I personally cold have it
up
to 2050 in a week but I don't others could.....
Btw I like the Artic choice....

I'm lucky if I can get enough time to do 10 years a week, so I'd never be
able to take part in competitions....

But, you can get enough time to read this NG which has more than 250 weekly
posts!
This must take much more time than playing 10 TT years...

--
Rémi Denis-Courmont
(address... numbers... spam...)

--
___ __o Pete Humble, JRI Europe, Ltd
_ \<,_ Email: peet AT dircon DOT co DOT uk
(_)/ (_) Any resemblance between the views expressed here
============= and those of my employers is pure coincidence.

[Steven Lalewicz]

Trikky wrote in message <7v5546$9i...@barcode.tesco.net>...

Ankit Desai <nospam-ankitpa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:VBMVOGxg7NYpKho4BnAfy4wMbRWM@4ax.com...
Also, tweaking the Interest Rate as Josef suggested with
opt.dat file seems nice and will add a whole new dimension to our
competition with higher interest rates.

If we ARE going to do this we should make sure that all players don't mind
altering their files........
Also it would be good if Josef printed a step-by-step guide to doing this
as
not all people will know how to alter files properly
--
Trikky

ICQ- 51210676
Tri...@Transport-Tycoon.co.uk

I'm certainly interested in the next competition. But I'd prefer it if I did
not have to modify any of the files (even with easy instructions). Just call
me a purist.

I'm also getting really good at coping with the lousy start loan. Within
about 20 years I have about 1/3 million and about 30 I reach a million
pounds. After about 1/3 million, money is not really a problem (playing
sub-tropical).

So coping with the normal start loan will filter out the real tycoons from
the rest , and I enjoy the challange.

Plus higher inflation hurts the AI more than it does us. I read somewhere
for a real challange, make inflation lower cause it allows the AI to succeed
better.

Regards,
Steve.

[Trikky]

Ankit Desai <nospam-ankitpa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > Well, what we
could do is instead of beginning from 1950, have a

scenario start up around 1980 or later still (2000?).

Ok, I see no probs with that.......The problem is that you can only set the
scenario editor to 1975.........

Also, taking
into account what Eddie said about contests rising in difficulty
slowly rather than drastically. I think it would be best if we started
on a Desert scenario or maybe even just a regular Tropical scenario.

The Desert would be easier and I thought that the tropical one WAS the
desert.........Or did you mean Temperate?

Another person had stated that he would like the contest's file to be
in one place, on one web site with the web site explicitly stated here
in the NG. No problem with that...

Yep, as long as its updated dairly regularly......

Ooooo have you changed your name (Forgive my ignorance!)
Actually, if you look at my e-mail address I use AnkitPayal there too.

I never look unless I need to.

Payal is my fiancee-to-be. Being so head over heals over her,

Awwwww....!

I attached her name to mine. I am considering a name change to that
though.

Ok, your going to have to forgive the ignorance again here, are you asian
and is it a racial thing?

Oh, I also go by "Kit" sometimes.

That I can understand.........I don't thin I know anybody that dosen't trim
their names! See mine for a good example!
--
Trikky

ICQ- 51210676
Tri...@Transport-Tycoon.co.uk

[Pete Humble]

Quoth "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <rden...@pop3.2multimania.com> in
alt.games.microprose.transport-tyc:

Pete Humble <spamf...@peet.at.dircon.dot.co.dot.uk> a écrit dans le message
: 381da59f.102368...@news.dircon.co.uk...
I'm lucky if I can get enough time to do 10 years a week, so I'd never be
able to take part in competitions....

But, you can get enough time to read this NG which has more than 250 weekly
posts!
This must take much more time than playing 10 TT years...
Maybe, but I read this newsgroup at work and play TT at home, so its

different time.
--
___ __o Pete Humble, JRI Europe, Ltd
_ \<,_ Email: peet AT dircon DOT co DOT uk
(_)/ (_) Any resemblance between the views expressed here
============= and those of my employers is pure coincidence.

[Trikky]

Steven Lalewicz <s...@mfltd.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7v6pc9$pvq$1@hyperion.mfltd.co.uk...

I'm certainly interested in the next competition. But I'd prefer it if I
did
not have to modify any of the files (even with easy instructions). Just
call
me a purist.

I don't think its about being a purist......Its just a case of if you get it
wrong that you have noone to blame but yourself........

I'm also getting really good at coping with the lousy start loan. Within
about 20 years I have about 1/3 million and about 30 I reach a million
pounds. After about 1/3 million, money is not really a problem (playing
sub-tropical).

Ah....The desert.......You just try that in the Sub-Arctic.....

So coping with the normal start loan will filter out the real tycoons from
the rest , and I enjoy the challange.

So do I ........I hate raising the loan....I've even started playing with
breakdowns to normal (I used to play on reduced)

Plus higher inflation hurts the AI more than it does us. I read somewhere
for a real challange, make inflation lower cause it allows the AI to
succeed
better.

What.....and give it more money to mess up the map with...No thanks!
--
Trikky

ICQ- 51210676
Tri...@Transport-Tycoon.co.uk

[Rémi Denis-Courmont]

Trikky <tri...@bigfoot.com> a écrit dans le message :
7v7uh3$n...@barcode.tesco.net...

Ankit Desai <nospam-ankitpa...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > Well, what
we
could do is instead of beginning from 1950, have a
scenario start up around 1980 or later still (2000?).

Ok, I see no probs with that.......The problem is that you can only set
the
scenario editor to 1975.........

Also, taking
into account what Eddie said about contests rising in difficulty
slowly rather than drastically. I think it would be best if we started
on a Desert scenario or maybe even just a regular Tropical scenario.

The Desert would be easier and I thought that the tropical one WAS the
desert.........Or did you mean Temperate?
If we play on a desert-only scenario (with the entire map coered by sand),

it will be quite easy, but overall, we will have to make money with goods
because there won't be lots of passengers.
It could be a good idea, especially for those who want a easy competition
first.

Another person had stated that he would like the contest's file to be
in one place, on one web site with the web site explicitly stated here
in the NG. No problem with that...
That was me.

Yep, as long as its updated dairly regularly......
I hope competition rules will not have to be updated...

Scores tables should often be updated.


--
Rémi Denis-Courmont
(remove 1,2,3 from address)

--
Trikky

ICQ- 51210676
Tri...@Transport-Tycoon.co.uk

[Chris locke]

Just a quickie.... (ooer!! nudge nudge)

The first point of this "competition" was to involve everyone - if it was
set way too hard for the hardened players, then the "haven't played it much"
players wouldn't be able to play - and we wanted as many people as poss to
play (well, 9 is still good)

Yes, its been easy, but also enjoyable. If it was difficult, I'd get too
annoyed with it!!!!

PPS: "Is there a patch to increase the loan" ..... Josefs patch gives you
as much money as you need, then put yourself in the red after you've built
what you've needed!!!! haha!!!

[Edward Bernard]

So do I ........I hate raising the loan....I've even started playing with
breakdowns to normal (I used to play on reduced)

I need the loan for my wild starting construction, and the computer my give
some challenge with more money behind it!

Rqqvr

[Trikky]

Edward Bernard <Edw...@ebernard.greatxscape.net> wrote in message
news:7vamlg$fdj$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...

So do I ........I hate raising the loan....I've even started playing
with
breakdowns to normal (I used to play on reduced)
I need the loan for my wild starting construction, and the computer my
give
some challenge with more money behind it!

Have you seen the Cheating AI on my site.........IT DOES!!!!!
I set my max loan to 150.000 but the comp took 250,000.......I have proof
BTW.....
--
Trikky

ICQ- 51210676
Tri...@Transport-Tycoon.co.uk

[Steven Lalewicz]

Trikky wrote in message <7vajb8$c3s...@barcode.tesco.net>...

Steven Lalewicz <s...@mfltd.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7v6pc9$pvq$1@hyperion.mfltd.co.uk...

I'm certainly interested in the next competition. But I'd prefer it if I
did
not have to modify any of the files (even with easy instructions). Just
call
me a purist.

I don't think its about being a purist......Its just a case of if you get
it
wrong that you have noone to blame but yourself........

Oh yeh, and that too.

Ah....The desert.......You just try that in the Sub-Arctic.....

So the sub-artic is harder? Not tried it yet. Will do soon I'm sure.

My current strategy to make money, is to have a city in the desert
to grow so it accepts goods. Money just comes pouring in when you direct
all your lines to one factory and then the goods to the select town.

The hard part is making the city grow quicky!

So do I ........I hate raising the loan....I've even started playing with
breakdowns to normal (I used to play on reduced)

I always play on medium difficulty (one day I'll brave the hardest one).

Plus higher inflation hurts the AI more than it does us. I read somewhere
for a real challange, make inflation lower cause it allows the AI to
succeed
better.

What.....and give it more money to mess up the map with...No thanks!

I really get fed up when it builds it tracks and station really close to a
city, stopping it from growing. Sometimes I buy out the competition just so
I can clean the place up.

Regards,
Steve.

--
Trikky

ICQ- 51210676
Tri...@Transport-Tycoon.co.uk

[Anthony Houghton]

Trikky <tri...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:7vd5jt$mc9$4@epos.tesco.net...

Have you seen the Cheating AI on my site.........IT DOES!!!!!
I set my max loan to 150.000 but the comp took 250,000.......I have
proof
BTW.....

Just had a quick look at your site and at the relevant page. Noticed
that the date is March 1982.

The amount you can borrow goes up with inflation (that's why the
options refer to the Maximum _Initial_ Loan), so assuming that the
game started in 1950, I reckon you'd be able to borrow £250,000 come
1982, so I don't think that that's a cheat. Try it and see; if you can
stand clicking 25 times!

Being able to build and destroy, build and destroy, build and destroy,
(isn't copying and pasting wonderful?) the same bit of track 20 times,
at no cost - now that's a different matter.
--
Ant

[Edward Bernard]

The amount you can borrow goes up with inflation (that's why the
options refer to the Maximum _Initial_ Loan), so assuming that the
game started in 1950, I reckon you'd be able to borrow £250,000 come
1982, so I don't think that that's a cheat. Try it and see; if you can
stand clicking 25 times!

Ah yes, so it's not cheating after all. This is often what I do. At the
start the loan may be £500,000 but within a couple of years, it goes up to
£550,000 and then continues going up.
Sorry Rick, but you'll have to take this off the site. Good job I never put
it on yet!

Being able to build and destroy, build and destroy, build and destroy,
(isn't copying and pasting wonderful?) the same bit of track 20 times,
at no cost - now that's a different matter.

I agree.

Eddie

[Trikky]

Edward Bernard <Edw...@ebernard.greatxscape.net> wrote in message
news:7vhi6k$fdu$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...

The amount you can borrow goes up with inflation (that's why the
options refer to the Maximum _Initial_ Loan), so assuming that the
game started in 1950, I reckon you'd be able to borrow £250,000 come
1982,

Hang on... *I'm* not allowed to increase it........I tried......And was
told that I had reached my Max......

so I don't think that that's a cheat. Try it and see; if you can
stand clicking 25 times!

Nah 25 times don't hurt me much............Your finger becomes numb after
about 5

Ah yes, so it's not cheating after all. This is often what I do. At the
start the loan may be £500,000 but within a couple of years, it goes up to
£550,000 and then continues going up.

Nope....Didn't work (I have just tried it.........I'll see if I can get a
screen dump of it and post it

Sorry Rick, but you'll have to take this off the site. Good job I never
put
it on yet!

<rasp>....It stays.........So NER!

Being able to build and destroy, build and destroy, build and destroy,
(isn't copying and pasting wonderful?)

Cheat...B-)

the same bit of track 20 times, at no cost - now that's a different
matter.

He he.....
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Trikky
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