This is a Northern Line train to Battersea via Charing Cross

[SHADOW-XIII]

I hope they will not end up being late, Battersea Power Station area is going to be redevelop with homes for 28k people and work for another 25k people, station is a must there or it will just stuck

However I would rather prefer Stockwell to be interchange station since it would be an awesome place for all Victoria line commuters

Though to be honest I would prefer Victoria extension to south london or to central line in north part ...

[Kevo00]

Yep, IMHO I'd take the Victoria and Bakerloo south, badly needed really.

[jvassie]

Yep, IMHO I'd take the Victoria and Bakerloo south, badly needed really.

Indeed so, the Bakerloo would do well to extend east towards say Lewisham or Greenwich, stop at Borough, then London Bridge, Bermondsey, Surrey Quays, then perhaps a new station in the Deptford area before landing in Greenwich.

As for the Victoria line, so many possibilities, Croydon probably being the most sensible, as it's a hugely popular transport corridor.

[61653]

The original plan for the Victoria Line was to run to West Croydon, I think partly on the route that's now part of Overground. I think the Battersea plans make sense, seeing as half the services on the Northern currently turn back at Kennington anyway. To me it seems inefficient to terminate tube services in Zone 1, even though there won't be many travelling from say Ealing Broadway to Epping, or Richmond to Upminster. As a Northerner I always used to think that it seemed silly that the tube ran as far out as it does, but I've travelled in a few times at rush hour from Morden since, and it 'seems' quicker than a comparative heavy rail journey (New Malden-Waterloo for example).



And yes, I know the tube isn't a Light Rail system, technically.

[JGR]

It seems like a fairly odd proposal to me. Battersea Park already has decent enough rail services, even if the station itself is a bit rickety.
Also, Kennington to Battersea somewhat shadows the Overground extension from Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction, which IMO is a lot more useful.

I seem to recall a plan to separate the Northern line into two completely independent lines, to increase capacity, and Battersea may just be a more useful turn-around point then Kennington.
Although, if you're going to go to Battersea, you might as well make the extra step to Clapham Junction, if feasible.

[Ameecher]

The issue lies with Victoria tube station which is a mess and couldn't really handle the interchange traffic of people from Battersea Park to Central London, naturally some traffic will go this way but at least this will alleviate that.

On another note, I wonder if it'll get Jubilee style platform doors and does mean the end of the Kennington terminal loop?

[Kevo00]

@JGR This proposal is intended to serve a whole new development that will generate thousands of journeys of its own, hence Battersea Park station is a bit small and too close to Victoria, meaning the trains are already quite busy there. Agree that Clapham Junction would seem a more sensible terminus though.

Guessing the Kennington Loop might well survive as a useful way of turning trains when there is an emergency on either of the southern branches.

@47434 Just as well the tube doesn't run out to Aylesbury anymore - though Met line services are probably still competitive with Chiltern!

I also remember LUL taking a bar called the 'Underground bar', which has a tube roundel sign outside, and a tiled entrance leading downstairs, to court for impersonating a tube station. The fact that the said bar was in Dundee suggests they might have ambitions of running somewhat further out still...

[JamieLei]

Speaking of which, Birmingham Uni also has that exact type of bar in the student union...

In any way, passenger comfort is as much a factor as speed. Apparently the passengers who start at Amersham rather like the Met line, since they're sure of a seat. If they try to board the Chiltern in the morning peak, the chance of a seat is slim even though the journey time is faster.

I wonder what would happen if they did extend it to Clapham Junction? There wouldn't be a difference in fares due to the way the new pricing system works. I'd imagine the average commuter would just carry on into Waterloo, and use the Drain. Of course, Southern passengers may benefit but is it really any faster than currently jumping on SWT and then onto the Drain? Of course this is assuming that everyone wants to go to Bank, and it's be making sweeping generalisations again. But then lots of people do want to go to Bank and the biggest problem with London is capacity...

Edit: What's the time-savings like regarding going into Paddington vs. using the Central line from Ealing Broadway? Or is the great mass of people who get off there due to the fact it's just a lot more convenient to change there?

[jvassie]

Well, your looking at 13 minutes from Ealing to Paddington, then 23 minutes from Paddington - Oxford Circus - Bank, total 36.

Or a straight 34 minutes from Ealing to Bank on central throughout.

Time difference of several minutes aside, saving the hassle of walking through Paddington to the tube platforms, easier to change at Ealing Broadway I reckon.

Perhaps depends of course on where the journey originates.

[Ameecher]

I also remember LUL taking a bar called the 'Underground bar', which has a tube roundel sign outside, and a tiled entrance leading downstairs, to court for impersonating a tube station. The fact that the said bar was in Dundee suggests they might have ambitions of running somewhat further out still...

South Tay Street?

[Kevo00]

I also remember LUL taking a bar called the 'Underground bar', which has a tube roundel sign outside, and a tiled entrance leading downstairs, to court for impersonating a tube station. The fact that the said bar was in Dundee suggests they might have ambitions of running somewhat further out still...

South Tay Street?

Nah, it was in Seagate. Think its now called 'The Lowdown'.