FIRS Industry Replacement Set - releases

[Fry3k]

I just updated the Cargo Flow Chart, I hope it's satisfying. Perhaps if something is not proper English you can tell me since I'm no native english speaker. And I have two other questions:

How much does delivery of engineering supplies and farm supplies increase the productivity of the industries which they are delivered to?

How does conversion of cargo at the Machine Shop work? 8 tons of metal are transformed into 4 tons of engineering supplies and 4 tons of farm supplies? Is this valid for the delivery of petrol to a Machine Shop too? And does the Metal Foundry behave like this too?

[Ammler]

isn't it OTTD or what does OTT mean?

Edit: also maybe you can reflect the industry color from the minimap?
Edit2: something else than white background is a bit toner waste for printing.

[andythenorth]

Thanks for doing this

How much does delivery of engineering supplies and farm supplies increase the productivity of the industries which they are delivered to?

At the end of each month, if supplies have been delivered, there is a 1 in 4 chance of a production increase.

How does conversion of cargo at the Machine Shop work? 8 tons of metal are transformed into 4 tons of engineering supplies and 4 tons of farm supplies? Is this valid for the delivery of petrol to a Machine Shop too? And does the Metal Foundry behave like this too?

Yes:
8t metal => 4 tons of engineering supplies + 4 tons of farm supplies.
8t petrol => 4 tons of engineering supplies + 4 tons of farm supplies.
8t metal + 8t petrol => 8 tons of engineering supplies + 8 tons of farm supplies.

You've probably noticed that some other industries process more efficiently if a combination of cargos is delivered?

[Alberth]

I just updated the Cargo Flow Chart, I hope it's satisfying. Perhaps if something is not proper English you can tell me since I'm no native english speaker.

Looking great!

[Bob_Mackenzie]

Ive just started playing again. I notice that there is no warning any more of secondary industry closure?

[andythenorth]

Ive just started playing again. I notice that there is no warning any more of secondary industry closure?

By default, FIRS secondary industries don't close. There's a param to enable that if you wish (but there's no warnings other than the in-game news message). Check the readme file for parameter instructions

[andythenorth]

FIRS 0.5.4 released - Bananas, first page of thread.

*0.5.4* Changes the following:
- Small amounts of delivered cargo no longer 'lost' at secondary industries
- Additional layouts for Biorefinery
- Additional layouts for Lumber Yard
- Fixed wrong characters in Serbian translation

[Bob_Mackenzie]

Ive just started playing again. I notice that there is no warning any more of secondary industry closure?

By default, FIRS secondary industries don't close. There's a param to enable that if you wish (but there's no warnings other than the in-game news message). Check the readme file for parameter instructions

Thanks - the parameter is set. I was then shocked to see industries disappear with no warning - I'm sure there used to be a warning?

[Kogut]

I like that feature with small production even without delivery.

[andythenorth]

I like that feature with small production even without delivery.

I don't You just found quite a serious bug

[Kogut]

I like that feature with small production even without delivery.

I don't You just found quite a serious bug

Is it possible to keep it with option to enable it?
Hmm. Second thing - maybe it is second part of bug - production in secondaries seems to be smaller than before.

[andythenorth]

Is it possible to keep it with option to enable it?

Not as a parameter - sorry. The reason is testing. Here's some equations

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Number of test games that need to be played = number of parameters for production code

Except sometimes parameters have different effects when combined, then number of test games needed is factorial

It makes bug reporting + testing harder too.

I could make it an easy switch for people who are prepared to compile FIRS themselves (unsupported).

Hmm. Second thing - maybe it is second part of bug - production in secondaries seems to be smaller than before.

Could be a bug. Can you do me a favour and compare same industry and delivery amounts for FIRS 0.5.3 and 0.5.4?

[Alberth]

By default, FIRS secondary industries don't close. There's a param to enable that if you wish (but there's no warnings other than the in-game news message). Check the readme file for parameter instructions

Thanks - the parameter is set. I was then shocked to see industries disappear with no warning - I'm sure there used to be a warning?

That warning is a news message, perhaps you have disabled that type of news?

[Bob_Mackenzie]

By default, FIRS secondary industries don't close. There's a param to enable that if you wish (but there's no warnings other than the in-game news message). Check the readme file for parameter instructions

Thanks - the parameter is set. I was then shocked to see industries disappear with no warning - I'm sure there used to be a warning?

That warning is a news message, perhaps you have disabled that type of news?

Probably

However there used to a warning in the industry window

[andythenorth]

However there used to a warning in the industry window

Only for the power plant (removed) and a couple of other 'black hole' industries. There was never a warning in the industry window for secondary industry. However there might be in future.

[Alberth]

Nice cliff hanger

[Kogut]

Is it possible to keep it with option to enable it?

Not as a parameter - sorry. The reason is testing. Here's some equations

Code: Select all

Number of test games that need to be played = number of parameters for production code

Except sometimes parameters have different effects when combined, then number of test games needed is factorial

It makes bug reporting + testing harder too.

I could make it an easy switch for people who are prepared to compile FIRS themselves (unsupported).

Hmm. Second thing - maybe it is second part of bug - production in secondaries seems to be smaller than before.

Could be a bug. Can you do me a favour and compare same industry and delivery amounts for FIRS 0.5.3 and 0.5.4?

Brewery is completely broken (tested only in 0.5.4 so far): 600 grain delivery, 0 output, 100 grain delivery - 6 output etc. Savegame from r21258.
EDIT: Steel mill ignores coal - second position on list have problems?.
EDIT: aluminium plant with chemicals works fine.

[andythenorth]

Brewery is completely broken (tested only in 0.5.4 so far): 600 grain delivery, 0 output, 100 grain delivery - 6 output etc. Savegame from r21258.

Thanks. When I changed the code I was worried I would break something, it's quite complex. I'll have a look what the problems are and do a new release within a few days.

[Bob_Mackenzie]

The forge is producing even though I have no deliveries....

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[Bob_Mackenzie]

Lime kiln has the same problem

(edit)

And the Lumber Mill