[REL] Semi Truck and Trailer Pack update: 28.3.2006

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Post by mayday » 05 Mar 2006 16:16

this hopper trailer caming next with half and full cargo coal/iron
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Post by Visscher » 05 Mar 2006 17:52

you might also want to add grain to the hopper trailer, or are you plannning a other trailer for this?

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Post by Hobgoblin » 05 Mar 2006 18:00

all good stuff av been having a play
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Post by mayday » 05 Mar 2006 19:15

Visscher wrote:you might also want to add grain to the hopper trailer, or are you plannning a other trailer for this?
yes i plannning a other trailer for this, why loco accepted so many do not sprite-sets from freight. than is the dat file to big with 3 cargo types and 7 sprite-sets

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Post by Hobgoblin » 06 Mar 2006 13:31

mayday wrote:
yes i plannning a other trailer for this, why loco accepted so many do not sprite-sets from freight. than is the dat file to big with 3 cargo types and 7 sprite-sets
i understand u would need
coal part load full load
iron ore part load full load
grain part load full load
plus empty trailer

and lomo cant do this
fair enough more trailers means more different vehicles and thats what i like about lomo with mods loads of different trucks trains busses trams boats all rushin about makin lots of money if only makin money in real life was this much fun 8) :lol:
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Post by Illegal_Alien » 06 Mar 2006 15:35

Wasnt there a truck who does do all of them?
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Post by Visscher » 06 Mar 2006 15:53

Illegal_Alien wrote:Wasnt there a truck who does do all of them?
I thought the hopper available from 1900 does that, the hopper available at 1990 does it as well, I am not sure about the other ones.

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Post by Illegal_Alien » 06 Mar 2006 16:41

And besides that; You all know the paper/steel/wood car for the trains?
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Post by mayday » 06 Mar 2006 18:21

I understand not everything what was written now here my is English for that too bad, and translating programms do not help either so well.
I can only say where I built the maglev hopper trailer I wanted to build that one also with coal iron and grain, with full and semifull cargo. I had the xml correctly as well as also the whole sprite-sets had arranged placed correctly and it had not functioned. had indicated loco the wrong cargo always wrongly, thinks that it so at the hopper trailer also so would will be. but I will try once again to build the hopper trailer with coal iron and grain and with full and semifull cargo. seeing whether this time it works once

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Post by mayday » 06 Mar 2006 21:04

the hopper trailer is realeased with cargo coal/iron/grain full and semifull.
look in first post.

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Post by Visscher » 07 Mar 2006 15:12

I think you have made a tiping error at your hopper stats, in locomotion it says that it is only capable of carrying 10 tonnes of coal/ironore/grain. I think this should be 100 tonnes like the other trailers.

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Post by mayday » 07 Mar 2006 16:38

Visscher wrote:I think you have made a tiping error at your hopper stats, in locomotion it says that it is only capable of carrying 10 tonnes of coal/ironore/grain. I think this should be 100 tonnes like the other trailers.

(sorry about my bad english)
thank you, have the hopper trailer yet updated to 150t

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Post by Plastikman » 07 Mar 2006 16:53

Visscher wrote:I think you have made a tiping error at your hopper stats, in locomotion it says that it is only capable of carrying 10 tonnes of coal/ironore/grain. I think this should be 100 tonnes like the other trailers.

(sorry about my bad english)
hrmmm 10 for a semi does seem low.

the games rail hopper only holds 40 and biggest truck holds 28, so 100 would be WAY to much. maybe 30-32 or so would be correct.

a truck can't hold as much as a rail car.

lol in beta i put 100 tons on a train hopper (it was a 100ton hopper in real life), with 9 cars, the engine bearly was able to pull it, I had to cut the cargo to 50. also it took 2 game years to load the train.

Edit while i was typing this you bumped it up to 150t. that is the same as 3.5 train cars. sorry the trucks look great but, i would like to keep some realisim in the game.
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Post by mayday » 07 Mar 2006 17:06

Plastikman wrote:
Visscher wrote:I think you have made a tiping error at your hopper stats, in locomotion it says that it is only capable of carrying 10 tonnes of coal/ironore/grain. I think this should be 100 tonnes like the other trailers.

(sorry about my bad english)
hrmmm 10 for a semi does seem low.

the games rail hopper only holds 40 and biggest truck holds 28, so 100 would be WAY to much. maybe 30-32 or so would be correct.

a truck can't hold as much as a rail car.

lol in beta i put 100 tons on a train hopper (it was a 100ton hopper in real life), with 9 cars, the engine bearly was able to pull it, I had to cut the cargo to 50. also it took 2 game years to load the train.
i think when man playing from 1900 to 1990 than have the mines a big output 6000t-10000t pro month and than helping the trucks very good with so big tonnes volume. and when man playing from 1990 as start than is that natural not so good with so big t volume. but everyone must decide on that for itself. everyone can change itself it after like as mans wants to have.

question from me want their original t volume have into the trailers or increased t? your opinion would interest me. in Germany the ca rule is valid per axis supporter of 10 t. and Trucks may drive only 49 mph into Germany

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Post by Hobgoblin » 07 Mar 2006 21:07

I am a lorry driver and here the maximum weight of a full sized artic (semi truck) is 44 tons including load

I used to drive a tipper lorry carrying mostly scrap metal
and i have driven containers,refridgerated,tankers,flat beds,curtainsiders
almost all types of normal trucks available

Here are some stats (these are rough and from memory so close but not always perfect)

tipper.............empty 17 ton + 27 ton load (This one i remember well, my truck was 17.2 tons with full tank of diesel FH12 volvo globetrotter with trailer made of steel)

flat bed..........empty 13 ton + 31 ton load (I remember my old truck an FM12 weighed 12.8 tons empty)

Refrigerated...empty 18 ton + 26 ton load (this is a rough guess i know fridge trailers are heavy and weigh more than tippers so its close)

containers......empty 11 ton + container 4 ton + 29 ton load (i remember i could carry 29 tons with my Iveco Eurostar and worked out the rest from there

tanker..........empty 15 ton + 29 ton load (this is mostly a guess i cannot remember how heavy that truck was but this will be very close)

curtainsider..empty 14 ton + 30 ton load (this is again a guess but based on what i know from other truck types 14 ton sounds about right to me)

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volvo FH16..............610 BHP
Scania 416..............580 BHP
M.A.N.....................680 BHP (this is really for heavy haulege)

other companys do have a big power truck but i dont know exact figures

Not everybody drives high power truck so these are some of my recent truck with power output.

Scania 412....420 BHP
DAF XF ........430 BHP
Volvo FH12...460 BHP (this was my tipper lorry i loved it :lol: )
Volvo FM12...380 BHP
DAF XF ........480 BHP
DAF CF........320 BHP
DAF CF........430 BHP
M.A.N..........460 BHP (old shape)
M.A.N..........410 BHP (new shape)

No particular order i just put them in as i remembered them this gives an idea of a typical Truck in england

I drive for an agency so i drive lots of different trucks with lots of different loads. Corner speeds for tankers tend to be low, for other types it depends on the load.
speed limit is
56 mph (90kmh) on motorways
40 mph (66kph) on normal roads

I hope this helps i must admit i like the heavy load ones but i would use a vertion with correct weights too 8) depending on what type of game i was playing
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Post by mayday » 07 Mar 2006 22:22

thanks hobgoblin i update than tomorrow evening the trailers and trucks for correctly.
and look on the pic the next truck is ready a Volvo Globetrotter FH12 her comming also tomorrow evening
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Post by Hobgoblin » 08 Mar 2006 12:56

:D Cool my favorite truck (although i had the old 1 not the new 1) I am really pleased to see this

I am glad my stats helped
5 minutes to type an answer is nothing compared to how much fun your mods have given me
Plus it will be nice to have trucks based on my stats
and also remembering my old trucks reminded me of some fun times
lots of good memorys 8)
I look forward to playing with the new volvo thanks mayday
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Post by 3 day » 08 Mar 2006 17:39

How about a Kenworth.
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Post by mayday » 08 Mar 2006 20:41

the new Volvo is realesed, and have a 2tes pack with te originales dates realesed. see in first post

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Post by Hobgoblin » 09 Mar 2006 17:07

I have just downloaded the new pack with real stats 8)

I noticed when playing that the actross and trailers weighed 20tons each
or 40tons without load :lol:
maybe you have already corrected this but just in case a european truck is usually about 7-8 tons depending on make model and fuel load
and similar for trailers some lighter some heavier depending on type

for example
iveco eurostar 7 ton
container trailer 4 ton (skeleton trailer)
container box 4 ton
load 29ton
for total 44ton

or

volvo globetrotter (with hydraulic pump) 8 ton
steel body tipper 9 ton
load 27 ton
total 44ton

If you have already done this sorry please ignore me :lol:
i have done the stats in my game using frontend 2 (what a great program) i will now have slow heavy and light fast vertions in my games i think
so that i must choose different trucks for different jobs
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