Huh... junctions?

[srbokrata]

Regartds to all

I' m having a problem while constructing a junction. Whenever there is a bit more complex system, my trains just loose themselves and end up on different tracks and stations. It's like they don't know where to go. I just don't know what to do... Is there any junction construction pattern?

[spaceman-spiff]

Hi, you have to use waypoints, this means tell your trains wich part of the junction to take, you can give orders by clicking on a part of the tracks
But don't click on pieces with signals, I usually click 5 to 6 pieces of track behind the junction

[Severous]

Hi Guys.

There can be many factors that lead up to correct routing.

- Waypoints.
- Correct signal set ups (this is vital)
- Complete track...no missing bits
- Correct track. No bits of third rail missing etc
- Train route orders.

One of the most annoying problems I had on my first complex route on a GB scenario was a southbound line. had coal going down one fork to Grantham Steel Mill, and Goods going left down the oher fork down to London. I was not too pleased when Coal went to London and Goods to Grantham.

One way signals on the approach and on each fork did the trick for me. Dont think I needed waypoints but that may have been luck.

Srbokrata...Post a screenshot if still having problems ? Good luck.

[chevyrider]

Look here for a good signaling tutorial:
http://www.geocities.com/benj_a_d/sigdesign.htm

[d00mh4mm3r]

A LOT of the more complex juncyions need correct waypoints, as most of them the train has to turn the wrong way, in order to turn the right way

[spaceman-spiff]

Look here for a good signaling tutorial:
http://www.geocities.com/benj_a_d/sigdesign.htm

But it doesn't say anything about waypoints, does it

[chevyrider]

But it doesn't say anything about waypoints, does it

I never have problems with waypoints.
After a junction you have to put oneway signals.
Put the waypoint within 6 tiles from the junction.
When you build extra trains be sure that the first waypoint to pass is showed in the schedule first, otherwise the train keeps looking for a waypoint that it will never reach.
So look at the arrow in the schedule.
Never add a new side track without to put extra waypoints on that junction.
Hope this helps.


Also see this copy\paste part of a former post of me:
This is an example how it should have to work.
From the single track split in two and place oneway-signals.
Put as close as behind that signals the waypoints.
On some occasions it is advisable to make the curve of 90 degrees after the first junction.
Maybe it's a bug in position calculation on the map?
That two lines can be made longer if wished.
I mostly make them 3 to 6 blocks long.
At the entrance of the stations there must be placed double-signals.
Never had problems with this way of routing.


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[srbokrata]

Thanx,

This has been good help.
I'll try to fix up something

[kikumbob]

But it doesn't say anything about waypoints, does it

I never have problems with waypoints.
After a junction you have to put oneway signals.
Put the waypoint within 6 tiles from the junction.
When you build extra trains be sure that the first waypoint to pass is showed in the schedule first, otherwise the train keeps looking for a waypoint that it will never reach.
So look at the arrow in the schedule.
Never add a new side track without to put extra waypoints on that junction.
Hope this helps.


Also see this copy\paste part of a former post of me:
This is an example how it should have to work.
From the single track split in two and place oneway-signals.
Put as close as behind that signals the waypoints.
On some occasions it is advisable to make the curve of 90 degrees after the first junction.
Maybe it's a bug in position calculation on the map?
That two lines can be made longer if wished.
I mostly make them 3 to 6 blocks long.
At the entrance of the stations there must be placed double-signals.
Never had problems with this way of routing.


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Regarding that picture: The amount of stations there seems ridiculous. Do you really need all of them?

[chevyrider]

That station was used build for the example.

And yes to your question.
It's far to small for my purposes.
The next one below wasn't big enough to last long.
I had to double that one.

[Deacon]

With a station that big, how do you avoid traffic snarl-ups? I find that any time I have enough trains that I would need more than three tracks in my station, I inevitably have delays where the trains are merging onto the main line from their spur stations, so the track never supports enough trains that I would need more stations.

[chevyrider]

With a station that big, how do you avoid traffic snarl-ups? I find that any time I have enough trains that I would need more than three tracks in my station, I inevitably have delays where the trains are merging onto the main line from their spur stations, so the track never supports enough trains that I would need more stations.

Three station tracks are sufficient all the time for a single mainline.
One train enters,
one is loading
and one leaves.
The only important thing is the amount of power of the loco.
As a rule you need for a single exit line 4000kW of power for 600 ton of payload.
If not you get congestion and you have to place an other triple station nearby.
Also where a train has to climb up hill, make that part 2 or 3 tracks wide.
With the above situation i can transport on a double mainline (2 tracks) and a station layout of two stations 3*16 about 9000 ton per month.