British narrow gauge (preservation project needs volunteers)

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 24 Jan 2004 10:55

I don't know, but I think its Birtish because of the amount of narrow guage railways there.

I got some ideas though

http://www.whr.co.uk/enthus/stock/russell.html

cornelius · Post by **cornelius** » 24 Jan 2004 12:59

Born Acorn wrote:I don't know, but I think its Birtish because of the amount of narrow guage railways there.

Yeah mostly British, but some European engines do run in the UK now so all suggestions are welcome - it depends how many slots there are (and judging by the DB set there are a lot!)

My initial ideas list was:

Festiniog Prince type (with tender)
Quarry-type Hunslet
Double and single Fairlie
Russell type tank
Vale of Rheidol type tank
WW1 Baldwin
WW1 Simplex diesel
K1 garratt
WHR garratt
Irish railbus
Tralee and Dingle tank
Londonderry and Lough Swilly tank and tender types (the big ones)
modern Fairlie
modern diesel
modern railcar

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 24 Jan 2004 19:07

vale of ffestiniog diesel?

shawn_ardies · Post by **shawn_ardies** » 24 Jan 2004 21:42

looks awsome! can't wait!

what will it replace? the monorail?

CZAR ALEKSANDER · Post by **CZAR ALEKSANDER** » 25 Jan 2004 10:25

Hello:

I would like to knwo if there are going to be two sets of track narrow gage
tracks and wide gage tracks please let me know.

tx

Czar Aleksander

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 25 Jan 2004 13:17

It would be reasonable to have a separate set of graphics for the narrow-gauge tracks. I don't think anyone has talked about wide-gauge tracks, the "normal" tracks are I think standard gauge.

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 26 Jan 2004 12:15

I think Alex (I can call you Alex right?) meant to say that will there be narrow and standard, or would the narrow replace the standard guage. I think. I hope thats what he wanted to say

If anything, they would be seperate entities, probably replaciung either electric railway (boo-hiss) or maglev/monorial (yay).

Hope that was the answer you were looking for

ZleDth · Post by **ZleDth** » 26 Jan 2004 14:04

in the first post there was something about monorail!!!!! so please read!

cornelius · Post by **cornelius** » 26 Jan 2004 23:37

How would you go about replacing the monorail tracks? I thought the electric rails and 'unifiedmaglev' etc were switches in the patch, so you couldn't just change that with graphics?

I was kind of thinking that the narrow gauge rails would replace the normal ones, because I want to make the new engines and wagons slightly overscale to emphasise the effect and therefore you couldn't run both gauges together.

Anyway, I've done some of the snow graphics and everything seems to be fitting together okay. The graphics for the overhead wires work automatically with them (although that isn't in the screenshot) so you could have electric narrow gauge too.

At the moment I'm encoding the changes directly into the main .grf files but I noticed that the new grey stone tracks by Den are a seperate new .grf file - how do I set one of those up so that they over-write the original graphics? I know I have to make an .nfo file for it but how do I specify what is replacing what?

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 27 Jan 2004 00:33

The electrified settings are a switch, but that doesn't control the graphics - it controls which trains work on what. The graphics it uses are the same old ones, generally the graphics for the monorails. If you set your graphics to overwrite the monorail graphics, that would do the trick for you. Maybe you'd want also to change the cursor graphics and name but I think you can do that with GRF files also.

The right way to do this isn't as an installing EXE, it's as a GRF file, and there's a tool to do that, but I'm not sure how to use it. PM Dinges or Shadow for advice.

I don't think it's a good idea to go overscale like you said, because then it won't fit with the existing buildings. TTD is overscale enough already anyway. I do think you should keep the existing normal and electrified rails, and have narrow-gauge replace the monorail, because then you could use it in combination with the BR set when it's ready - normal and electrified mainline track, and narrow-gauge service in the mountains. This would add another dimension, the need to trans-ship the carge from the narrow gauge branches to the mainline in the valleys. To make this work you'd probably want the narrow-gauge locos to have disproportionately high power, but low top speed.

Flavius · Post by **Flavius** » 27 Jan 2004 06:09

Will the narrow guage locos and rails be phased out say after 1960

Does replacing monorails mean they would never be in that game at all

nilsi · Post by **nilsi** » 27 Jan 2004 08:47

@Rollo TTD can only handle 3 types of track in a game (now often: normal, electric, monorail) so if you want to have another type of track you have to remove one of the others (e.g. normal, electric, narrow). Or you can do (normal,narrow, monorail) or (narrow,monorail,maglev) but there is no possibility to have 4 different tracktypes at the same time (i.e. in the same game / without changing ttdpatch.cfg)

Killer 11 · Post by **Killer 11** » 27 Jan 2004 09:49

Sorry cornelius but i can't see the difference

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 29 Jan 2004 16:49

difference to what?

Killer 11 · Post by **Killer 11** » 30 Jan 2004 19:09

He posted a narrow rails gif file but those tracs are just like normal in winter

Bart · Post by **Bart** » 30 Jan 2004 21:28

* no comments *

nilsi · Post by **nilsi** » 30 Jan 2004 22:35

Thank you.

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 17 Feb 2004 21:21

what hapened here? I thought this was a go?
I really want to see this go through.

are you still here cornelius?

cornelius · Post by **cornelius** » 17 Feb 2004 21:40

Born Acorn wrote:what hapened here? I thought this was a go?
I really want to see this go through.

are you still here cornelius?

Unfortunately I have a bit of a problem where I keep playing the game instead of working on new toys for it - the new DB set sucks away my time something rotten.

But I am still thinking about how I want the idea to work - although it might not prove to be a popular decision I would like to make the set narrow gauge-only so it can have a large number of locomotives. But we'll see - I'll try to put together some initial graphics for engines and rolling stock when I have a chance.

I noticed you've done some of the carriages for the American set - would you like to get involved in this one too?

Born Acorn · Post by **Born Acorn** » 17 Feb 2004 21:42

yessssss

I have already half made a welsh highland railway carriage for myself.

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