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Any way to have multiple Ship Docks for one station?

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I was wondering if theres any simple way to build multiple docks conected to one station with out getting an error stating that Im trying to add more then one dock.
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Re: Any way to have multiple Ship Docks for one station?

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Visually, yes, there should be a station grf that let you place railway station tiles that looks like harbour/dock area. Using distant join you can place a bus stop out of sight and then make a dock in your big harbour that will not be used but you'll get multiple docks.

Gamewise, no, only one dock can be present per station.
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Re: Any way to have multiple Ship Docks for one station?

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You can't build more than one dock, no, and I don't know if that will ever change. However, it should be possible to make complex harbours with newgrf airports.
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When I ment having multiple ship docks, I ment through patching\modifying code.
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Of course if you include the option to modify the source and compile new binaries then *anything* is possible. The question is instead how long time will it take?
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NekoMaster wrote:I was wondering if theres any simple way to build multiple docks conected to one station with out getting an error stating that Im trying to add more then one dock.
Your question is a bit off, people may misunderstand it. What you're asking is if you can build docks without getting an error message, which is very easily possible, but it won't acomplish what I think you're asking for. You want to actually build the docks connected to each other, not just remove the error message when it fails.
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petert wrote:
NekoMaster wrote:I was wondering if theres any simple way to build multiple docks conected to one station with out getting an error stating that Im trying to add more then one dock.
Your question is a bit off, people may misunderstand it. What you're asking is if you can build docks without getting an error message, which is very easily possible, but it won't acomplish what I think you're asking for. You want to actually build the docks connected to each other, not just remove the error message when it fails.
Yeah, I wanna build multiple docks so that not all the ships goto one but goto multiple docks if they're unoccupied(which looks weird having 10 ships in one spot at a dock)
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Re: Any way to have multiple Ship Docks for one station?

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what you are trying is fairly difficult. if you are seriously attempting this, try to replicate the steps that were done with road stations...
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As it exists right now, you can build multiple docks, even right next to each other (OTTD 1.0.0 RC2, anyhow). But they are going to be separate docks that will not share cargo. You can join train/RV/airports to those separate docks to separate your cargo if you wish, I'm not sure if the Cargodist or Cargodest patches could further help that.
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This is something I DESPERATELY want too! I'm a fan of ships so I play a lot on islands maps and use ships quite a lot. It frustrates me to no end having only one dock per harbour. I mean, really?

It is in fact very possible to put docks together while holding a keyboard, but they aren't considered to be the same station but two different :-(

And since this is a veeery old question, I'll be happy to know if any development has been made about it since...
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It is entirely possible to have multiple docks in a harbour, but you have to specify which route will go to each one. In this example, ships with incoming wood and chemicals are directed to the leftmost dock "Furumo Papirfabrikk", while the products Goods and Packaging are loaded at the docks called "Furumo Papir" and Furumo Kartong" respectively. I've been playing around a lot with GarryG's AuzObjects in this scenery. The docks are the "ISR-style dock v 1.3" which are overlaid with cranes from the ISR/DWE object sets.
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Re: Any way to have multiple Ship Docks for one station?

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NewMap genuinely allows multiple-docks-per-station similar like road stops:
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=58420
So does JGR's pack:
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=73469
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Re: Any way to have multiple Ship Docks for one station?

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Uh... but Leifbk, what you show in your picture is exactly the problem I'm talking about :-(

Imagine you have a big bus station with several stops. Just because you put five stops together, doesn't mean each get its own name, right? All of them work as one. That's what I want to do with my ships. In your picture what I see is three different stations, game-wise. They don't share loads and have their own name.

In the same way as in my example about five bus stops together as one, that's what I wish to do with my docks in a single harbour.

And Pyoro, I'm not sure what I was supposed to see in that picture, but there are only railroads, no ships. However, in your second link (that I readed fully) there was this: "Fix ship pathfinder support for multiple docks. Ships can now head to docks other than the linearly closest one." I hope this means what I wanted to do???
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CazadorSirenas wrote:And Pyoro, I'm not sure what I was supposed to see in that picture, but there are only railroads, no ships. However, in your second link (that I readed fully) there was this: "Fix ship pathfinder support for multiple docks. Ships can now head to docks other than the linearly closest one." I hope this means what I wanted to do???
Yes, this is what you want. Both NewMapFeatures and JGR Patch Pack are variations of OpenTTD that have implemented a patch which allows multiple docks to be built as one station. It is not a feature that is (yet) found in the standard OpenTTD package.

You use control-click to place the dock and select if it joins an existing station or is built as a new station, or you build it directly next to an existing dock or other type of station to expand that station (just like you do for road stations and rail stations).
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Re: Any way to have multiple Ship Docks for one station?

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Yes Kamnet, I downloaded the patch "Openttd-custom-jgrpp-0.26.1-MINGW-win64" and immediately put it to test. It works awesomely! :-) Guys I'm SO HAPPY you wouldn't believe! It were so many years wishing for this!
I really thank you all you awesome people!
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Re: Any way to have multiple Ship Docks for one station?

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jgrpp already has this. just use that and turn on ships avoid collisions.
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