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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by Pilot » 16 Dec 2016 22:10

orudge wrote:
Pilot wrote:Enjoyable journey with KLM, first time flying with them, so cannot fault them! Tegel is an issue, the Buses to Berlin seem to be rather busy, however, Brandenburg was supposed to be open by now
It was supposed to be open when I visited Berlin back in July 2012 - when we booked the flights it was indeed under the new "BER" code rather than "TXL". About a month before we were due to fly, they then delayed the opening indefinitely...
That wasn't the first time it was supposed to be open to be fair! Originally supposed to be 2009 I believe. At least I can say that I've been in Brandenburg already, so don't need to visit that one :D
orudge wrote:I hope you're collecting some frequent flyer miles by the way (although admittedly you get close to sod all in discount economy on most European airlines these days). Over time they ought to build up, especially if you do some long-haul flying.
I'm not, didn't know which scheme to sign up to that would have covered the majority of my flights (Flew KLM, EasyJet, Vueling, Alitalia (booked with AF) and Air France (booked with Flybe).

Anyway, my last one for a while.

Today (16/12):
From: Paris (Charles de Gaulle)
To: Manchester (Ringway)
Airline: Air France
Flight Number: AF1168 (Booked as BE3130)
Aircraft: F-GTAZ (A321-200)
Seat: 32E 32F

Enjoyable trip with Air France, little bit turbulent on departure and a hard landing at Manchester. Still, free beer, and the Gent who was supposed to be sat at the window let me (and the person in the aisle) move up one seat instead, putting me at the window seat instead :D

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by orudge » 17 Dec 2016 22:48

Air France, KLM and Alitalia are all part of SkyTeam. Flying Blue is probably your best bet. If you sign up you can retroactively claim miles.

Easyjet allows you to earn Nectar points I think when you book, nowt otherwise.

Vueling lets you earn Avios with Iberia and BA.

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by Pilot » 17 Dec 2016 23:55

I will definitely have to look into some of those, especially Avios, as I seem to be travelling with BA a lot more (even if it is only down to London).

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by orudge » 18 Dec 2016 09:53

BAEC isn't as generous as it used to be, but at 4000 miles off-peak for a Western European flight it's not too difficult to earn a flight. Reward Flight Saver caps taxes at £17.50 one-way too which is a help. Downside is that most cheapest economy flights earn only 25% miles now. :(

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by EXTspotter » 19 Dec 2016 23:16

Will confirm; my return flights on BA to Lisbon only accrued 25% miles on my Finnair Plus account but were purchased by a friend who works for BA in an incredibly discounted fare category so it was only £90 return including 23kg luggage... Not to be sniffed at!
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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by Ameecher » 26 Dec 2016 08:35

Hanoi to Saigon with Jetstar Pacific on a Vueling a320 complete with Spanish crew. Needless to say they were struggling with the Vietnamese passengers and their approach to air travel.
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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by Ameecher » 31 Dec 2016 13:18

Ho Chi Minh City to Hong Kong with Vietjet. They played terrible music the whole way through the very long boarding process and I was allocated the quest seat on an a320. Seat 11B (and obviously 11E). Tantalisingly close to the exit row but because you're in the row in front you can't recline your seat and you have no joy with either the window or the freedom of the aisle.

Only place worse I've found is the back row in a 737 where they still manage to get 6 rows across despite the fuselage narrowing. You just get a really Marie seat, also can't recline.
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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by orudge » 05 Jan 2017 11:25

Ameecher wrote:Hanoi to Saigon with Jetstar Pacific on a Vueling a320 complete with Spanish crew.
That's a bit out of the way for Vueling! I know airlines often lease planes to other companies, but I'm not sure I've heard of many instances of short-haul planes operating on the other side of the world for another company. :)

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by EXTspotter » 06 Jan 2017 00:29

I've not heard it often on scheduled airlines but happens all the time for charter; for years Thomson have wet leased (leasing both the aircraft and crew to fly it) 737s from Canadian holiday airlines like Sunwing for the European peak holiday season (April to October) and in return when the demand drops in Europe, wet leases the spare capacity back to the Canadian airlines for their peak holiday season (November to March). Entire airlines have been set up from this arrangement - Air 2000 (which down the line became First Choice Airways and now Thomson) set up a Canadian subsidiary called Canada 3000 which had these arrangements in place for many years.
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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by Pilot » 06 Jan 2017 08:31

I believe that Sun Country and Transavia have a similar arrangement, with Transavia leasing planes in the Summer from Sun Country, and then leasing Planes to Sun Country in the winter. I believe both are full scheduled LCCs too.

Of course, I imagine this has a lot too do with Seasonal Work. For example, Vueling has 56 seasonal destinations from Barcelona, and the vast majority of those would appear to be summer destinations to me, so at this time of year, it makes a lot of sense to lease them out. You don't make money off of Aircraft and Crews that are just sitting around, after all!

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by supermop » 07 Jan 2017 15:25

Another for a "current plane journey" thread - currently on Jet Blue 243 JFK to Havana, with free Wi-Fi as long as the plane is over the US. Running a bit late due to a slight snow storm, so looking forward to tropical weather and a cortadito when I land! Unfortunately weather calls for rain all afternoon in Havana...

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by kamnet » 14 Jan 2017 02:24

Not my plane journey, but figured it fits here.

Finnair booked passengers on Friday the 13th on Flight 666 to HEL
http://www.travelandleisure.com/airline ... 6-helsinki

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by orudge » 04 Aug 2017 08:23

Oh hey, I can post in this for the first time since 2015!

My last 6 flights:

ABZ - CDG
Air France (Hop!)
Embraer 170
Economy

Flight was fine. It was Benjamin's first flight, and he coped with it quite well all things considered. It was 6am and I'd been up since about 2am though. He did go to sleep eventually, I didn't!

CDG - ABZ
Air France (Hop!)
Embraer 170
Economy

Flight was cancelled 2 days in advance because of a strike. Nul points to you, Air France. So instead, after initially being rerouted CDG - FRA - ABZ (with an hour connection in Frankfurt, and a CDG - FRA flight that was almost always 20 minutes late), we were sent on:

CDG - MAN
Air France
Airbus A320
Economy

The first time I've actually been on mainline Air France, as opposed to Hop!/Régional, etc. Again, it was fine. Still has some free food and drinks - something BA could learn from!

MAN - ABZ
Flybe
Bombardier DHC-8-400 (although I think it's actually a Q400; either way, standard Flybe turboprop)
Economy

After a bus journey from one part of Terminal 3 to another, then half an hour or so in a soulless corridor (admittedly with a view of some planes) with two small children, we boarded this little Flybe plane. Benjamin by this point was fairly grumpy, but did sleep eventually. I think everybody just wanted to get home really! We didn't appear to be the only people connecting here from the Air France flight.

ABZ - BHX
Flybe
Bombardier DHC-8-400
Economy

Went to Birmingham for the meet. Flight arrived early, which was nice. £2.50 for a cup of tea though (necessary at that time of the morning) - not quite so nice. Also, the Flybe automatic seat selection put me next to the one seat on the plane that has no window. Thanks for that.

BHX - ABZ
Flybe
Bombardier DHC-8-400
Economy

Went home after the meet. The morning flight, due to leave at around 9am, ended up leaving at about 1.50pm. Thankfully I wasn't on that one. Mine left slightly late but arrived early. And the seat selection put me in the seat next to the one seat on the plane that has no window. I think it must be deliberately designed to assign the rubbish seats first...

Next flight is today (ABZ - LHR on a BA A319), then back on Sunday (in business class! as that was all that was available via Avios, and it was cheaper than booking a cash ticket in economy). Then later in the year, ABZ - LHR - SOF - LHR - ABZ, and ABZ - FRA - WRO - FRA - ABZ!

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by JamieLei » 08 Aug 2017 22:11

Lots of ABZ; it's almost as if you live in Aberdeen or something!
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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by orudge » 09 Aug 2017 10:23

I know, it's crazy, eh?

As for my last flights - ABZ - LHR on Friday was fine, albeit delayed about half an hour. Didn't pay for any food or drink, but it seems they had barely anything loaded. The guy next to me asked for a beer and a sandwich - they didn't have any sandwiches loaded and they didn't have the kind of beer he wanted. He then asked for a packet of crisps, but they didn't have the flavour he'd asked for. We were in row 5 or something - I'm guessing the folk at the back who wanted anything would have literally got nothing!

LHR - ABZ on Sunday was in Club Europe (new for 2017 on domestic flights), since that's all we could get with Avios, and it was still cheaper than booking a cash ticket in economy. It was good - got to use the business class lounge, which was all very civilised (I'd only been in the first class lounge before in T5). Seats are just the same as in economy now, but with a little table thing in the middle seat to put your drinks on. A meal was offered but we weren't really hungry, but our drinks were served in real glasses. (Sadly I was driving or I'd have had a glass of fizz.) All very nice.

We're intending to go back to Berlin for a holiday next year - looked up the price of Club Europe versus economy though for 4 of us and it is unfortunately still quite a bit more. Not worth paying £1500 or so when we could just pay £400!

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Post by orudge » 09 Aug 2017 10:23

I know, it's crazy, eh?

As for my last flights - ABZ - LHR on Friday was fine, albeit delayed about half an hour. Didn't pay for any food or drink, but it seems they had barely anything loaded. The guy next to me asked for a beer and a sandwich - they didn't have any sandwiches loaded and they didn't have the kind of beer he wanted. He then asked for a packet of crisps, but they didn't have the flavour he'd asked for. We were in row 5 or something - I'm guessing the folk at the back who wanted anything would have literally got nothing!

LHR - ABZ on Sunday was in Club Europe (new for 2017 on domestic flights), since that's all we could get with Avios, and it was still cheaper than booking a cash ticket in economy. It was good - got to use the business class lounge, which was all very civilised (I'd only been in the first class lounge before in T5). Seats are just the same as in economy now, but with a little table thing in the middle seat to put your drinks on. A meal was offered but we weren't really hungry, but our drinks were served in real glasses. (Sadly I was driving or I'd have had a glass of fizz.) All very nice.

We're intending to go back to Berlin for a holiday next year - looked up the price of Club Europe versus economy though for 4 of us and it is unfortunately still quite a bit more. Not worth paying £1500 or so when we could just pay £400!

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by JamieLei » 09 Aug 2017 19:54

I flew back from Glasgow into London City and had my complementary gin and tonic! I'll be sad when that is removed too, just like Heathrow and Gatwick; and I probably won't fly BA any more.

I must have been on business to Glasgow and have done it about 10 times now, by most transport modes. Generally speaking, it takes:

04:30: Virgin Trains from London Euston to Glasgow Central and vice versa
04:30: easyJet from Luton to Glasgow (including: going out of St Pancras on East Midlands Trains, getting the Luton Airport shuttle, and the Glasgow Airport Express)
04:00: British Airways from Glasgow to London City Airport (including getting the Glasgow Airport Express and the DLR)
03:30: British Airways from London City Airport to Glasgow (half an hour shorter than the return journey because City has a very short check-in time and the DLR is as punctual as Japan so I can time it perfectly).

So basically; unless I'm flying from City to Glasgow, it's not really worth me flying. On the train I can work the whole way with wifi and a table; flying I can't, and that's a really big deal-breaker for me. When I flew easyJet, I got a grand total of 10 minutes work done; entirely on the East Midlands Train up to Luton Airport Parkway!
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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by orudge » 10 Aug 2017 08:16

If I were doing the same journey, then I expect the train would be my preferred choice - although price would also be a factor. This is assuming I am wanting to go city centre to city centre of course. If I'm flying GLA - LHR - somewhere, then it makes much more sense to fly.

Aberdeen is just that bit far for the train to be a viable competitor in my opinion, unless you're not in a hurry. From my house in Banchory, it's about half an hour to the airport. In theory for a domestic flight you can be there an hour before - for safety, let's say an hour and a half. Then the flight itself is an hour and a half, then let's say half an hour at the other end. So about 4 hours.

For the train, it's either a half hour drive to Stonehaven, where you might be lucky to find parking, or it's 1 hour by bus into Aberdeen. The direct East Coast train is then 7 hours (20 minutes less from Stonehaven). The train is far more civilised though, especially in first class, and if you want to get work done, you're much more likely to be able to do so on the train!

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by Pilot » 10 Aug 2017 12:42

orudge wrote:We're intending to go back to Berlin for a holiday next year
Glad to see I'm not the only one looking at going back to that wonderful City!

Anyway, not my last or current, but my next few that I've either booked, or I'm planning on doing:

MAN - BHD: Fri 29th September with Flybe, any advice is useful with those folks!
DUB - MAN : Mon 2nd October with Ryanair, should be enough time for a coffee!
LBA - GRO: Fri 6th October with Ryanair
GRO - LBA : Mon 9th October with Ryanair, another long weekend away!
MAN - SXF: Thurs 7th December with Ryanair or Easyjet
SXF - MAN: Mon 11th December with Ryanair or Easyjet, again, another long weekend away to visit the Christmas markets over there again, lots of Gluhwein shall be had! :mrgreen:

The BHD and DUB trip is booked and confirmed, the GRO trip is just awaiting on my Leave being approved so my dad can book it, and the Berlin trip is early stages, and I'm waiting on a friend to sort out whether he shall be coming or not.

Can you tell my season at work is about to finish? :mrgreen:

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Re: Your last plane journey

Post by Pilot » 29 Sep 2017 20:50

One for this morning
From: Manchester (Ringway)
To: Belfast (City)
Airline: Flybe
Flight Number: BE472
Aircraft: G-FLBA (Bombardier Dash 8 Q400)
Seat: 19A

Originally scheduled to depart at 0700, we eventually deperated at 0757 (2 mins after our scheduled arrival at Belfast) due to what we were told was a Toilet issue... we eventually boarded and were told the Toilet was broken, however this was miraculously fixed by the time we boarded!

Nice flight however, little bumpy most the way over, and a very bumpy approach into Belfast, but can't complain! Weird sensation watching the wheel touch the ground then a second later actually feeling the plane touch the ground though! Anyway, finally time for me to get some sleep, I've been up since 3am!

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