The Thread Of Randomness

[Pilot]

Also, 6 years of secondary education north of the border? I find that rather interesting.

It seems you have 7 years in England though?

Do we? I always thought it was 5 years of secondary education that's mandatory (Years 7-11), then you have 2 years of further education, which is College or Sixth Form (where it is referred to as Years 12-13). I actually think that remaining in some form of education until you were 18 became a mandatory thing for the year group after mine, before that, you could leave at the end of Year 11, now you either have to go to college, or join an Apprenticeship or similar.

Could be worse though, could be the arguably more confusing American system!

No thanks! I fail to understand how you can have 3 different types of schools for the same year, but that's America for you I guess

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[Ameecher]

Silly Scots with their silly education system Is there any particular reason why the system is different there, or is just a "We're Scottish, we like to do things differently" situation?

As I understand it, universal education in Scotland predates that in England, so maybe it's a "We're English, we like to do things differently" situation.

Effectively though, the two systems (I believe Wales and Northern Ireland more or less follow the English system) simply developed differently.

Also, 6 years of secondary education north of the border? I find that rather interesting.

It seems you have 7 years in England though?

Wikipedia has a handy comparative table. England has something called "reception" (why isn't that just "year 1"?) when we have P1, so then our P2 is your Year 1, and so on, up to P7/Year 6. Then our S1-S6 are your Years 7-12. But you apparently have an extra Year 13.

When I was at school, only S1-S4 were mandatory, you could then choose to go to college or get a job instead of staying on for S5 (and optionally S6).

And looking at that table, Northern Ireland uses the sensible Scottish system for P1-7, but then uses "years" for secondary.

Could be worse though, could be the arguably more confusing American system!

We also have 4 years of university instead of 3, although in theory you can do direct entry to second year if your grades are good enough and you want to do so.

And that's why direct entry into 2nd year for English students to Scottish unis is quite common because the first year of university is very much like doing A2s or year 13 in that specific subject.

[NekoMaster]

Mean while most of Canada has 8 Years of Elementary School and 4 Years of High school/secondary school (though some students can choose to stay for an extra year aka A Victory Lap)

I dunno if its possible to actually skip grades or years in school or college/university, as I've never met anyone that has done that (to be fair I live in Oshawa, its not exactly the greatest city in Ontario but at least we're not detroit, yet)

[Redirect Left]

I hope in Canada & Scotland, schools understand the importance of letting children enjoy their time at home, and not bog them down with homework.

I got a buttload and refused to do it from a young age, citing that school work was for school, not home. Polishing it with the word 'Home'work did not get over the fact it was just school work. I spent most of the first 6 month of high school in detention after school, but amazingly they got the idea that nothing was going to make me do it and they pretty much let it slip after that.

[NekoMaster]

I hope in Canada & Scotland, schools understand the importance of letting children enjoy their time at home, and not bog them down with homework.

I got a buttload and refused to do it from a young age, citing that school work was for school, not home. Polishing it with the word 'Home'work did not get over the fact it was just school work. I spent most of the first 6 month of high school in detention after school, but amazingly they got the idea that nothing was going to make me do it and they pretty much let it slip after that.

Depends on the teacher and subject/course, some teachers and/or classes push little to no homework on good students (lazy ones that didn't finish work still had to finish it at home), though some teachers are assholes and dump tons of homework on the students, especially whent hey're in a bad mood or because the class misbehaves even a little bit.

I rarely did my home work though but that cost me about 10% of my grade in many classes where home work made 10-15% of the grade in some classes.

ALso some classes in school have no homework because its kind of immpossible to send a child home with a bunch of sheet metal and welding tools or a car and a car lift home for home work.

Also some home work isn't even mandatory, but merely just stuff to get you thinking like some math classes handed out homework but it wasn't mandatory to finish it, it was just to help students improve on their math skills.

[ALEXbr]

In Romania we have pretty big homeworks. And the good students (like me) are expected to do more homework than the bad ones. I usually do my homeworks.
In Romania we start the elementary school at 6 years with preparatory class. This happens for a few years: Me and my parents started the school at 7 years at 1st grade. At the end of 4th grade the elementary school ends and the gymnasium starts, usually at the same school. Some high schools have their gymnasiums, and some elementary schools countryside don't have gymnasiums. After the 8th grade, at 14 years we will have an exam at Romanian, Maths, and if need Maternal Language to get our high school. There are various profiles: Maths&Informatics, Natural Scienes, Social Scienes, etc. After the 12th grade, as grown-ups we will have bacalaureate with various exams. Then we will go to college.
In Romania we don't make metalwork, unless we study at a professional school specialised in this.

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[Chrill]

Right, we're doing school systems.

At age 6, there's a year of preschool which is mandatory. Then, you have 9 years of primary education also mandatory. At age 16, you have the option of going for 3 years of gymnasium/secondary education. This is not mandatory, but de facto required because 98% of all kids go there. You pretty much can't even get a job at McDonald's without gymnasium education.

So, more or less 13 years of "mandatory" schooling in Sweden before you get to university level.

[Pilot]

I basically only did homework when I could be bothered, which was very rarely. If I ever did it, it was either last minute on the bus to school, or sat in the landing area at the top of the stairs before class

At age 6, there's a year of preschool which is mandatory.

I find it rather interesting that education there starts from age 6. The Reception year in England is for ages 4-5 (so 2 years earlier). Like you though, we have the choice at 16 to go to College, or whether to pass onto an apprenticeship or not. Most people follow one of these paths (which I believe is now a legal requirement until at least 18 (I've said that before I think)). College/Sixth Form generally lasts for just 2 years though before you can go on to University.

My personal education background is basically as follows, I finished high school with 11 GCSEs (not as good grades as I would have liked (nor predicted), but hey ho, can't change that), then went on to College, left college towards the end of my first year, due to family issues causing me to fall severely behind on my coursework. I took some time away from everything for a few months to get my head together, and then have been working this current job since January 2016. I do intend to go back to college at some point (most likely night classes), and hopefully gain a few A-Levels, so that I'm able to follow the career path I've always wanted, but that is on hold at the moment.

(I hoped you enjoyed that little story about myself)

[orudge]

I hope in Canada & Scotland, schools understand the importance of letting children enjoy their time at home, and not bog them down with homework.

My daughter started getting homework in primary 1! She's in P2 now, and usually has a book to read each week (they're pretty small books) and some writing or maths to practice.

I was a little surprised by this, as I don't ever remember getting homework until maybe primary 5. I could be misremembering too - it was maybe even secondary before I started getting any homework.

In other completely unrelated news, I can now receive a 4G signal in the office! Various rooms which for whatever reasons were blackspots not only for 3G but also for the office's crappy wifi I can now get signal in!

However, we're moving to a brand new office 15 miles away in 3 months. And at the moment, I seem to get 4G throughout most of the building (we were there yesterday), but there seemed to be a blackspot conveniently in the location that I'm likely to be sitting in. The wifi's meant to be much better in the new office though...

[Redirect Left]

Wasted my time voting earlier, in an election where the desired outcome is impossible so tonight I can be even more disillusioned in the country.

[Redirect Left]

Been watching the election results tonight.

Some really dodgy camera and microphone work. Cameras out of focus, blurry, microphones crackling to the point where I'm glad I wasn't using headphones for fear of my eardrums.

Mays gamble, just like Cameron before her, has not paid off in a spectacular fashion.

[EXTspotter]

You could put a moose in a suit and call them the conservative candidate down here and they'd still have a 5 digit majority. I'm still annoyed about AV and think it should be used. It's also interesting that Nicola Sturgeon no longer agrees with that given that they've "won" Scotland with only about 35/40% of the vote up there.

I only slept for 2 hours because I'm a spoon who stayed up to watch the election result. I felt a bit sorry for Nick Clegg but thought his speech when he lost his seat was really good. Much more credible than Amber Rudd and Justin Greening on camera anyway!

I like my parliaments like I like my men - hung and at the expense of Theresa May's political career.

[Chrill]

You like your men hung at the expense of Theresa May? Strange.

[Bad Hair Day]

I'm still annoyed about AV and think it should be used.

The Conservatives and many in Labour would never let anything close to proportional representation go through as it would weaken both parties, as evidenced by the NOtoAV campaign which was just plain dirty.

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[Drury]

Right, we're doing school systems.

At age 6, there's a year of preschool which is mandatory. Then, you have 9 years of primary education also mandatory. At age 16, you have the option of going for 3 years of gymnasium/secondary education. This is not mandatory, but de facto required because 98% of all kids go there. You pretty much can't even get a job at McDonald's without gymnasium education.

So, more or less 13 years of "mandatory" schooling in Sweden before you get to university level.

This is literally our system except gymnasium is either 8 years starting at year 5 (pretty much cutting your primary education short in a sense) or 4 years starting at year 10 (right after primary school which ends with year 9).

Following primary school you can either choose the 4-year gymnasium or vocational school where you specialize in a certain craft. When it comes to popularity, gymnasium/vocational is about 25/75. You won't get as literate from vocational, but you're pretty much guaranteed a job which is not at all the case with gymnasium - gymnasium-goers are very much expected to continue on to university, get a degree and reach for high-profile jobs. Having just gymnasium education on its own is pretty much useless - I mean, you might snatch a spot at McDonalds if you're lucky, but the job market for these people is extremely saturated and there's pretty much no value in employing them anyway since they don't really know much other than cartesian coordinate systems. Meanwhile vocationals practice at their designated workplace and become full-time employees right after graduation.

[Redirect Left]

I assume schools abroad also force children to do P.E. / Physical Education. Something vaguely sporty? That is what I hated most about school here, to the point where I just 'forgot' my kit so i could sit on the edge of the field and watch instead of take part.

[Drury]

I assume schools abroad also force children to do P.E. / Physical Education. Something vaguely sporty? That is what I hated most about school here, to the point where I just 'forgot' my kit so i could sit on the edge of the field and watch instead of take part.

Yep that's exactly what I did. P.E. was kinda fun while we did fun new things like gymnastics, pole climbing etc. but once it devolved into just ball games in the later years there was no point in participating.

[Redirect Left]

I assume schools abroad also force children to do P.E. / Physical Education. Something vaguely sporty? That is what I hated most about school here, to the point where I just 'forgot' my kit so i could sit on the edge of the field and watch instead of take part.

Yep that's exactly what I did. P.E. was kinda fun while we did fun new things like gymnastics, pole climbing etc. but once it devolved into just ball games in the later years there was no point in participating.

At my school, it was always the same.
The boys would do Rugby or Football, and the girls would always do basketball, badminton or rounders (a really retarded cut down Baseball for those not in the know, I think its mainly a British thing).

[kamnet]

At this very moment, myself, my son, and my roommate are being trolled on Facebook by actor David Arquette.

I must say I'm having a good laugh at it all!

[Pilot]

Are Capital One actually Rick-rolling everyone?

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