VAST Development

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Re: VAST Development

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Re: VAST Development

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I really need to release things more often.

Here are two betas:

VAST+ Infrastructure 0.1.0 Beta 1
This is a small collection of graphics that have been lying around for way too long.
This version contains:
  • 5 Foundation replacements
  • 1 road depot replacement (brick)
  • 1 fifth stage HQ replacement (modern)
You need to set this NewGRF's parameters in order to use any of these graphics.

VAST+ Fences 0.3.0 Beta 1
Updates since 0.2.0:
  • More varieties of fences in different positions per fence type (e.g. middle of tile, middle to edge)
  • Added brick wall.
  • Added parameter for coastal sprite handling:
    By default you'll get a normal ground sprite on a coast if the fence would look like it were floating in the water
    Otherwise change the parameter to always draw a normal coast sprite.
  • Added 2 "checkpoints" per fence type.
  • Added parameter for removal behaviour. It's set to "owned-land" by default so you can build over existing fences with having to dynamite them first. Towns can't build over these objects in the scenario editor so feel free to build stuff everywhere.
  • Full snow/desert awareness.
  • Added parameters for construction and removal cost multipliers.
  • Not officially compatible with earlier versions.
Known issues:
  • The 2 brick wall checkpoints are the same as the chainlink ones. I'll change them.
  • There are some rare cases where coastal tile detection fails. Not yet sure if fixable.
You will need OpenTTD r23166 or newer.

Tars are attached. Put them in OpenTTD's newgrf folder and activate ingame. No need to unpack.

Projects are GPLv2. Source is at http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/vast.

If you think you've found a bug or think something looks wrong, please let me know.
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Re: VAST Development

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Excellent, the fences are one of the most useful GRFs
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Very nice work on all of the fences. I also very much like the road vehicle depot. The HQ is a bit too tall should it show up too early in the game but that is always a problem. I have always wished for a way to make the HQ time dependent (as in the year) as opposed to how well your company is doing. The foundations are nice but do not fit in with the much used ISR New Objects. Perhaps an all-inclusive foundation NewGrf is in order. I also appreciate the well thought out manner with which you have coded these NewGrfs by making nearly everything in them a choice via a parameter. Please do keep up the great work, it is very much appreciated.
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Re: VAST Development

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Thanks for having a look.
Nite Owl wrote:HQ time dependent (as in the year).
Can be done, with the downside that (IIRC) you need to reload the game in order to see the result of a transition (see: road style changes with year in TTRS).
Nite Owl wrote:The foundations are nice but do not fit in with the much used ISR New Objects. Perhaps an all-inclusive foundation NewGrf is in order.
ISR object sprites include the foundations in the overlay sprite so they don't draw the same sprites as those used in the baseset (or those that replace the baseset). Either ISR objects needs to reference the baseset sprites or include the VAST foundation graphics in its sprites. The former is probably best: it's simpler and works for any NewGRF that supplies foundation sprites.
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Sorry to dig this up. Which is the most updated version of VAST? The various threads here seem a little confusing.

It was my impression that there was a released version that was snow-aware? Maybe I dreamt that? :P
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The latest version of VAST Stations is 0.2.0 which is on BaNaNaS. It's outdated in many ways though. I want to update the graphics at some point, but it probably won't get any new features for a while.

The latest version of VAST Objects is 0.2.25 which is only attached to this post viewtopic.php?f=26&t=48763&start=40#p905659
There isn't a public snow-aware version of either, but it is planned for Objects 0.3.0 along with numerous other improvements including animation-based seasonal changes, use of the views property and zoomed sprites.
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Objects 0.3.0 is incomplete but playable. It makes no sense to sit on it for another three years until "it's done", so since the 8th August is the project's 3rd birthday, albeit two months late, whatever is ready at that point will be released as 0.3.0. It won't be backwards compatible and will require OpenTTD r25230. I'll try to do much faster updates afterwards, which should be possible because the codebase is no longer a monolithic mess.
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Looks just fine :)) . Really looking forward to the next version of this set. With great pleasure I play with VAST :)) .
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Re: VAST Development

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Hello there !

I like this set, really beautiful! Nice work!

I have a question though. Seeing your last post (with screenshot), I noticed the sloped path going up the mountain. In game, I don't manage to build them (0.3.0 on Bananas). Are these yet implemented, or are they planned for a future release?

Another question (suggestion) : would it be possible to select either the 8bpp graphics or the 32bpp ones? I really like your 32bpp tiles, but I also like the 8bpp ones, and it would be great to be able to choose between them with a parameter.

Thank you for this amazing work, and keep going!
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arikover wrote:Hello there !

I like this set, really beautiful! Nice work!
Hello and thank you :D
arikover wrote: I have a question though. Seeing your last post (with screenshot), I noticed the sloped path going up the mountain. In game, I don't manage to build them (0.3.0 on Bananas). Are these yet implemented, or are they planned for a future release?
Yep, they're in 0.3.0. You need to build the Aligned Slope. It adapts to the slope if built on one of the \ or / slopes regardless of the selected view, or it looks like the selected view if built on flat land. It cannot be built on other slopes, although you can make it glitch by building on flat land and removing a corner. The Raised Slope (top left of the screenshot) always has a foundation and is always aligned along the selected view.
arikover wrote: Another question (suggestion) : would it be possible to select either the 8bpp graphics or the 32bpp ones? I really like your 32bpp tiles, but I also like the 8bpp ones, and it would be great to be able to choose between them with a parameter.
I tried this a while ago and the 32bpp sprites were always used, so I've asked it here.
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It works! Thank you for your quick answer!
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Re: VAST Development

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zero.eight wrote:although you can make it glitch by building on flat land and removing a corner.
i'm fairly sure there is an option to disable terraforming under objects (like the transmitter)
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Re: VAST Development

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Eddi wrote:i'm fairly sure there is an option to disable terraforming under objects (like the transmitter)
Yep, there is:

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	graphics {
		...
		autoslope:					CB_RESULT_NO_AUTOSLOPE;
	}
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Re: VAST Development

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Unfortunately that doesn't work as desired when OBJ_FLAG_ANYTHING_REMOVE is set; you aren't prevented from terraforming around the object. Not sure if it's supposed to work like that.

I could just fix it by supplying additional sprites to cover up the glitches.
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