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Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 06 Sep 2020 08:43
by CMircea
I completely agree. Without adding a way to check the current railtype & its alternatives/compatibles it's going to complicate train sets a lot. If the track set doesn't define the alternatives/compatibles as originally intended in the spec it's even worse :(

Though to be fair that check would be a bit slower - instead of check if one item (current railtype) is present in an array (as done with VarAction2; the NML check probably compiles to VarAction2 as well), it'd have to check if an array (current railtype + alternative + compatible) would have any common member with the MY_AC_RAILS array. All of this would be done for each train, for each track piece. I think the pathfinder caches the results, but still :)

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 08 Sep 2020 17:25
by ufiby
Hello! After a long break. I decided to study how to create bridges, it was not easy, it was not clear with the NFO code (all codes with 16 system of numbering) and suffered. So it turned out the first bridge. :D
I'll take care of the bridge next.
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Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 09 Sep 2020 00:35
by Ragin1_
These look great! having a generic bridge set in the vein of TBRS that's up to date is something I've been wanting for a while. How many and what kinds of bridges are you thinking of doing?

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 09 Sep 2020 02:15
by Gadg8eer
ufiby wrote: 08 Sep 2020 17:25 Hello! After a long break. I decided to study how to create bridges, it was not easy, it was not clear with the NFO code (all codes with 16 system of numbering) and suffered. So it turned out the first bridge. :D
I'll take care of the bridge next.
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Would you be able to coordinate your bridges with my Individual Bridge Series? I'm trying to make individual bridges using GPL graphics that are compatible with Railtypes and NRT. Here's a spreadsheet of the bridge IDs I planned to use, I can make changes to accomodate compatibility with your GRF if you want to make more bridges...

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 09 Sep 2020 09:51
by arikover
ufiby wrote: 08 Sep 2020 17:25 Hello! After a long break. I decided to study how to create bridges [...]
These look really nice!

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (15.05.2020)

Posted: 10 Sep 2020 08:19
by wicket-303
It's great to make a bridge!
But I am waiting.
ufiby wrote: 06 Jun 2020 08:24 This is a lot, in my opinion, add one normal electrification + narrow gauge 1974 speed limit of 135 km / h )
Do you want to make this?

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (15.05.2020)

Posted: 10 Sep 2020 23:04
by Gadg8eer
wicket-303 wrote: 10 Sep 2020 08:19 It's great to make a bridge!
But I am waiting.
ufiby wrote: 06 Jun 2020 08:24 This is a lot, in my opinion, add one normal electrification + narrow gauge 1974 speed limit of 135 km / h )
Do you want to make this?
Try using more than one railtype set, you should be able to find a GRF that combines multiple guages.

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 27 Sep 2020 10:30
by Valdez
I second Arikover's suggestion from an earlier page.

If a roadtype doesn't allow houses and/or rail crossings, being able to know about it from build menu (or anywhere else in-game that doesn't involve external reference) would be very useful.

Also if I may add one suggestion of my own? Low priority, if it happens, nice.. if not, I'm okay with that too..

Would it be possible to add a parameter that changes standard gauge graphics for narrow ones, the way Japanese Set Tracks do (IIRC it's called "finescale" there)?
I've used narrow/finescale tracks for years and I found that I prefer the way they look, the default standards follow the old TTD standard and the track gauge looks massively oversized compared to the vehicles.

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 10 Oct 2020 19:13
by ufiby
Good results with the bridge work.
This is a girder bridge
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This is a steel, girder bridge
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And another urban, concrete bridge. On the city road bridge you can see the lighting
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I'm working on the rest of the bridges (cantilever, suspension, and tubular), but not this fast. :)

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 10 Oct 2020 20:28
by CMircea
The bridges looks pretty nice. I'm not too sure about the concrete monorail one though.

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 19:51
by ufiby
I'm not too sure about the concrete monorail one though.
this bridge is not approved, but it is possible. It was difficult to choose one of the two options. The bridge is suitable for urban conditions.
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Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 19:54
by CMircea
I'd say A but without the red fences.

B looks like it's just the rail with no supports, 2 tiles is quite long for the bare rail, not realistic at all.

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 14 Oct 2020 20:44
by ufiby
I think it's better
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Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 07:35
by CMircea
Looks better, though I still think the A version without the red fences would look better. This one is just a bit too plain :)

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 15 Oct 2020 09:12
by arikover
ufiby wrote: 14 Oct 2020 20:44 I think it's better
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I really like it!

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 17 Oct 2020 11:25
by lugo
Hi, first thank you for this wonderful set!

I wonder if this is a known glitch with IRS Road tunnels?
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Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 03 Nov 2020 16:37
by ufiby
Hi!
My graphics for the object. I don't mind if you want to use my tiles for the object

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 18 Nov 2020 10:15
by kmarcus
Hi!
Its a really amazing set, I think the best in category. Nice work!
The only thing what is missing: customization! Im using a lot of train & vehicle set, and some of them not competitve with the others, so I like manually setup the rail/road lines speed, maintence and build costs. For example in NuTrack. Maybe an allow/restrict for each track/road... Maybe introducing date...
Is possible to make customizable parameters? :bow:

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 18 Nov 2020 11:03
by fridaemon
ufiby wrote: 03 Nov 2020 16:37
Love these snowy versions, I can use them in my objects (_SNOW ground). :twisted:

Re: [NRT]Ufiby's Road, Tram, Trolleybus and Rail track (16.06.2020)

Posted: 19 Nov 2020 12:59
by ufiby
Hi!
I answer briefly, some asked questions :)
Valdez wrote: 27 Sep 2020 10:30 "finescale"
I don't plan. I arrange that there are standard and narrow rails.
lugo wrote: 17 Oct 2020 11:25
I know, and everyone knows it, too. For this reason, The openttd does not modifications the tunnel for NRT, except for the basic one. I don't know when the tunnel will be completed. I'm looking forward to it.
kmarcus wrote: 18 Nov 2020 10:15
I refuse that the parameters are similar to NuTrack. Maybe the parameters are analogous to the Japanese rail tracks or more precisely I do not know. The Road set have quite sufficient.
fridaemon wrote: 18 Nov 2020 11:03
So you will succeed. Good luck!
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They don't stop like this, they move over cantilever bridges