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Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Improved M Cars

Finally, the original ships and airplanes arrive to the new millenium.

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__Improved M Cars__
Ships, Airplanes, and tons of surprises.

With this set you obtain support for new cargoes, liveries, and much more... Is a set full of surprises, small details and the Cars Series's baby.

Available on: English, Spanish and French(Note Lang.).

Version 14 (first public version), now, available for download (from BaNaNaS).

More about this set:
Compatible with all climates.
Compatible with all cargoes, but every vehicle have his own particularities.

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This set is a really special set, and is based on the work of Giants.
Without them, all this would not have been possible.

A standing ovation for...
    DanMacK
    Is a bird, is a airplane, is superDanMacK in action

    lead@inbox
    Master shipper, the king of seven seas

    PikkaBird
    The da Vinci of the skies

Special thanks to them.

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Be good, and Enjoy the game.

(Note Lang.) The french translation, at this moment, is partial. More text in future releases.

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This is the 1000th file on BaNaNaS.
An applause for all OTTD developers, and for anyone who, over the years, has support this great project.

Author:  kamnet [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

So Improved M Cars has absolutely nothing to do with cars at all?

Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

There is more than the sight sees.

And, as I previously said... Is full of surprises.

Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

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Author:  kamnet [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

Some issues I noticed, using only FIRS 2.1.5, Extreme environment

1. Oil tankers only fitted for bauxite, cannot refit to any other cargo.
2. No ships to haul alcohol, building materials, chemicals, clay, engineering supplies, farm supplies, fish, lumber, manufacturing supplies, milk, oil, petroleum fuels, plant fibers, recyclables, sand, scrap metal, stone, sugar beet, or wool.
3. Coal trucks only fitted for alcohol, cannot refit to any other cargo.
4. Iron ore trucks only fitted for coal, cannot refit to any other cargo.
5. Oil trucks only fitted for bauxite, no vehicles available for oil.
6. No vehicles for fish, food, fruit... actually lets just say that most vehicles cannot carry what they should and there's a lot of cargo that can't be hauled at all.

Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

kamnet wrote:
Some issues I noticed, using only FIRS 2.1.5, Extreme environment

1. Oil tankers only fitted for bauxite, cannot refit to any other cargo.
2. No ships to haul alcohol, building materials, chemicals, clay, engineering supplies, farm supplies, fish, lumber, manufacturing supplies, milk, oil, petroleum fuels, plant fibers, recyclables, sand, scrap metal, stone, sugar beet, or wool.
3. Coal trucks only fitted for alcohol, cannot refit to any other cargo.
4. Iron ore trucks only fitted for coal, cannot refit to any other cargo.
5. Oil trucks only fitted for bauxite, no vehicles available for oil.
6. No vehicles for fish, food, fruit... actually lets just say that most vehicles cannot carry what they should and there's a lot of cargo that can't be hauled at all.

Maybe you posted your post in another post.

In other words...
Your last post here is in a erroneous topic :-)

Author:  kamnet [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

These are errors with Improved M Cars while using FIRS 2.1.5.

Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

I don't understand then.

Points 3 to 5, you talk about trucks and Improved M Cars don't have any road vehicle.

Respect to rest of vehicles, my code is good and works fine; For example, in all my test, oil and more are transported by the MPS Oil Tanker and the Cs-Inc. Oil Tanker; And for food, you only need to see the photos of my first post, these airplanes are transporting food.

Maybe other set is changing things and killing your test, I don't know.


In the weekend, if have time, I will revised all, but with really high probability, if something gone wrong is by a 3rd newGRF.

Author:  SimYouLater [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

SilverSurferZzZ wrote:
kamnet wrote:
SilverSurferZzZ wrote:
Maybe you posted your post in another post.

In other words...
Your last post here is in a erroneous topic :-)


These are errors with Improved M Cars while using FIRS 2.1.5.


I don't understand then.

Points 3 to 5, you talk about trucks and Improved M Cars don't have any road vehicle.

Respect to rest of vehicles, my code is good and works fine; For example, in all my test, oil and more are transported by the MPS Oil Tanker and the Cs-Inc. Oil Tanker; And for food, you only need to see the photos of my first post, these airplanes are transporting food.

Maybe other set is changing things and killing your test, I don't know.


In the weekend, if have time, I will revised all, but with really high probability, if something gone wrong is by a 3rd newGRF.


There is obviously a translation error in this conversation.

@Kamnet "Improved M Cars" is an odd way of writing it which is likely part of the translation problem, but the basic idea is that the set is only technically part of the "X Cars" sets, and has no road vehicles or train cars of any sort.

@SilverSurferZzZ You should relabel "Improved M Cars" as "Improved Not Cars" so people understand. Also, he is saying there is a glitch in road vehicles, but beacause your NewGRF contains no trucks or train wagons, I can only assume he loaded another set which is the issue or tried to use this NewGRF to enable all cargoes with Trucks and Trains.

Author:  kamnet [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

It would probably be very helpful if the name of these sets were clear, as well as what is actually included in the sets. A screen shot of the entire roster, perhaps, as well as non-ambiguous descriptions would go a long way. When you have "cars" in a title, people are going to expect automobiles, or maybe perhaps railroad carriages. And when one inquires about what the set includes, saying it's "full of surprises" definitely leads to misunderstanding.

And perhaps, in that mistranslation/misunderstanding, when one says "all cargoes", one might assume "all cargoes from all NewGRF economies", but only actually means "all cargoes from default OpenTTD industries". Which I believe is the case here as well. After testing with only "Improved M Cars" without FIRS loaded, I no longer have issues with refits.

So, not only are there no support for cars, there's no support for NewGRF economy sets, either.

Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

Calm, this is only the fist public release of Improved M Cars.
Rome was not built in a day.

In future versions the set will grow, more and more.


SimYouLater is on the right way.
This set is part of the Cars Series as I previously said in my first post:
SilverSurferZzZ wrote:
Is a set full of surprises, small details and the Cars Series's baby.

And the name is correct, Improved M Cars.
The M in the name if for Millennium, for Mystery and for More...


Respect to cargoes and FIRS...
Tons of other sets kill the original ships, airplanes and more, and, this set, can be affected by them.
The best choice is to put this set at the bottom of your list of active newGRFs; Or don't use a killer set except Halloween City Names ;)

Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

____Improved M Cars____
Version 15, now, available for download...
From BaNaNaS (online content, available directly from the game).

Changes:
    * Minor extras
    * More text in french translation
    * New language:
      - Portuguese(Note Lang.)

Compatibility info:
    100% compatible with previous version.
    Works on OTTD 1.4 or later.

(Note Lang.) The new translation, at this moment, is partial. More text in future releases.

This is a "minor" version, a updated-languages version with only small extras.

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--- More and better in future releases... ---
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Author:  SimYouLater [ Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

SilverSurferZzZ wrote:
Calm, this is only the fist public release of Improved M Cars.
Rome was not built in a day.

In future versions the set will grow, more and more.


SimYouLater is on the right way.
This set is part of the Cars Series as I previously said in my first post:
SilverSurferZzZ wrote:
Is a set full of surprises, small details and the Cars Series's baby.

And the name is correct, Improved M Cars.
The M in the name if for Millennium, for Mystery and for More...


Respect to cargoes and FIRS...
Tons of other sets kill the original ships, airplanes and more, and, this set, can be affected by them.
The best choice is to put this set at the bottom of your list of active newGRFs; Or don't use a killer set except Halloween City Names ;)


May I suggest an improved name then? AirSeaCraft2k Cars Addon, or AirSea1kY Cars Addon are the shortest names I could come up with that fit what the set truly is.

Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

I appreciate your suggestion, but no, the current name is correct -> Improved M Cars.

And now, I only need to say one thing:
- I see all; This is my set and I'm the only one to know everything about it.

Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

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All thanks to the reform experts of Improved M Cars; Now, working on variable running cost for all his ships.

Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

____Improved M Cars____
Version 16, now, available for download.
From the best fruit store of all the world.

Changes:
    * Minor changes and improvements
    * Now, MPS and CS-Inc oil tankers have variable running cost
    * More text in french and portuguese translation
    * New language:
      - Dutch(Note Lang.)
* And more, much more :)

Compatibility info:
    100% compatible with previous versions.
    Works on OTTD 1.4 or later.

(Note Lang.) The new translation, at this moment, is partial. More text in future releases.

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--- More and better in future releases... ---
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Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

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Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

____Improved M Cars____
Version 17, now, available for download.
From your favourite fruit store.

Changes:
    * Minor changes and improvements
    * Now, MPS and FFP passenger ferries have variable running cost
    * More text in dutch, french and portuguese translation
    * And more, much more :)

Compatibility info:
    100% compatible with previous versions.
    Works on OTTD 1.4 or later.

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--- More and better in future releases... ---
    -----------------------------------------------

Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

____Improved M Cars____
Version 18, now, available for download...
From BaNaNaS (online content, available directly from the game).

Changes:
    * Minor changes and improvements
    * Now, bakewell 300 hovercraft have variable running cost
    * New parameters, to turn on/off new types of vehicles (and more) from this set
    * First new vehicle:
      - Bakewell Luckett LB87 (airplane)
    * And more, much more :)

Compatibility info:
    100% compatible with previous versions.
    Works on OTTD 1.4 or later.

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--- More and better in future releases... ---
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Author:  SilverSurferZzZ [ Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Improved M Cars

____Improved M Cars____
Version 19, now, available for download...
From your favourite fruit store.

Changes:
    * Minor changes and improvements
    * New parameter, to turn on/off new types of vehicles (and more) from this set
    * More text in portuguese translation
    * And more, much more :)

Compatibility info:
    100% compatible with previous versions.
    Works on OTTD 1.4 or later.

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--- More and better in future releaseS... ---
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