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Zuu wrote:

changelog wrote:*100228
Removed : Rail service
Added : Aircraft (passenger only) service
Added : Ship service
Added : Tram service

I tired your last version which did well except that it did only build airports. Reading your change log I hoped that it should also build ships and tram service? I loaded the generic tram set.

It might have been that the AI though that air was more profitable, so I turned it off in your AI Settings, but then the AI didn't do anything. I saw that your water connector found two towns close to water which were connected to the same body of water but it never built anything.

Is this intended?

I used a mountainous/rough map but with height distribution = medium so there were still plenty of rather flat areas. (sea-level was set to high)

Of course the theory (and code) should be able to build Bus, Truck, Tram, Airplane, Chopper and Ship. In case that was not happened, it must be an ugly implementation code, which is should / could be fixed in the next release

The "Water Connector" Limitation :
- max. distance +/- 100 tile (couldn't use buoy yet)
- couldn't terraform a tile to build dock, which is half-sloped instead of flat.

Thanks zuu, for quick test

planetmaker wrote:Why not offer it for download via Bananas, too? Btw: Personally I think there's hardly ever the 'right time' (as in perfect) for most things.

Because, I don't feel it was ready to go there. That is "the right time"
Oh ... and the last two libraries, still must be downloaded from another thread on this forum instead of Bananas.

As the title said.. 10.03.07 was available today, both on the forum and Bananas.
(I just hope this was the right time)


Note : Even if you've downloaded Trans from Bananas, you would still need to download the libraries listed on the 2nd post if you haven't done it before.

fanioz wrote:Note : Even if you've downloaded Trans from Bananas, you would still need to download the libraries listed on the 2nd post if you haven't done it before.

Uhm... then put them up on bananas, too, and make them a dependency for your AI. No?

Congratulations Fanioz on the new release! I'm really have that there is another AI available which uses ships as well.
Here are my remarks:

• Without buoys, ships sometimes get stuck. YAPF for ships solves the problem, though.
• Please try not to use open ends to turn trams around. They may fail if another player (or even the same company) re-uses that piece of track.
• The AI seems to transport passengers only, and if I switch to freight-only mode, it doesn't affect planes. The instance on which I tested it kindly asked me to post the savegame here with the 'debugger' sign in view.

I really appreciate your work, I assume you've been working a lot because it seems to be a major rewrite of the code. Good work!

It really may be better to put that libraries on bananas.

planetmaker wrote: Uhm... then put them up on bananas, too, and make them a dependency for your AI. No?

Kogut wrote:It really may be better to put that libraries on bananas.

Well, then we've to waiting for a few days ...

Brumi wrote:Without buoys, ships sometimes get stuck. YAPF for ships solves the problem, though

That is known bug, could not resolved quickly

Brumi wrote:Please try not to use open ends to turn trams around. They may fail if another player (or even the same company) re-uses that piece of track.

Hmmm never though that before, thanks , it was fixed in r96 (not released yet)

Brumi wrote:The AI seems to transport passengers only, and if I switch to freight-only mode, it doesn't affect planes.

For plane, if pax was not allowed, they would carry mail instead.

Brumi wrote:The instance on which I tested it kindly asked me to post the savegame here with the 'debugger' sign in view.

Thanks for reporting, I would try to handle AIError.ERR_NONE then.

Hey fanioz,

Just want to congratulate you on how far your AI has come! I'm playing a test game now and I was happily surprised when I saw your AI building ship connections (I first thought it was NoCAB ) and competing pretty well despite not having trains yet.

I'm very interested to see how your AI will evolve. Keep up the good work!

Trans performs well in ship only game (passengers are way better than gold/mail to carry via ship) but:

Morloth wrote:Hey fanioz,

Just want to congratulate you on how far your AI has come! I'm playing a test game now and I was happily surprised when I saw your AI building ship connections (I first thought it was NoCAB ) and competing pretty well despite not having trains yet.

I'm very interested to see how your AI will evolve. Keep up the good work!

Thanks Bram.

Kogut wrote:Trans performs well in ship only game (passengers are way better than gold/mail to carry via ship) but:

Well, I though I had anticipate that problem, (and try to implement buoy was another problem), thanks for your report, I'll check it again later.

Hi Fanioz,

I did a bit of AI-watching today, to see what kind of hilarious nonsense... I mean... clever business tactics they pull off...
I had fun while trying to force Trans to use ships only, wich it did pretty well, on a random map with lots of water, it connected 4-5 coastal cities with the same ship, so good job there.
Then i started a new game, allowed to build everything. Trans built a lot of airports, then didn't do anything for half a year... I thought using Av8 is a problem, so i disabled it, and a few days later Trans built 2 planes. Just for the heck of it i readded Av8 to the grf-list, expecting either to a) crash, or b) to do nothing again. But it built 3 more planes, now from the airplane set. Maybe I should be more patient next time.

Then this hickup happened, as far as i see, it has nothing to do with airplanes, only with trying to build water stations, but who knows...
Originally Av8 was between the train-set addon and egrvts. If you need a savegame, or more useless info on a screenshot, i can post it.

Keep up the good work, thank you

Thanks for reporting.
- If you would like to force the vehicle type to be used by Trans, you could just set that inside a running game, you don't need to restart game (except if you would add/remove newgrf's)
- the crash is however not related to grf's, airplane, or ship building. But somewhat bad logic inside water connector. I 'll check again.
Again thanks for reporting

Hi, I got this error with this ai.

That is a missing library. Download AILibCommon (and AILibList if you don't have that one already) from the online content system or go to the URL which is ther in the window (http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=771764#p771764) and download 'AI Library - Common'.

The question is though, did (s)he use banans to get the AI? If so, then the dependencies for the AI in bananas is not correctly set up.

Thank you guys for the quick answer.

hay Samu, Trans would need Fibonacci Heap 2, AILib.Common.1, and AILib.List.1
* As Zuu said, did you use bananas to get the AI? I've set the AI dependencies there, and should be downloaded within AI. (only after Juni 6, 2010)
* In case you've downloaded Trans from this forum (and this thread), as Brumi said, you'll find them on "Download - Area"
* Or... did you got it somewhere else?

fanioz wrote:Thank you guys for the quick answer.

hay Samu, Trans would need Fibonacci Heap 2, AILib.Common.1, and AILib.List.1
* As Zuu said, did you use bananas to get the AI? I've set the AI dependencies there, and should be downloaded within AI. (only after Juni 6, 2010)
* In case you've downloaded Trans from this forum (and this thread), as Brumi said, you'll find them on "Download - Area"
* Or... did you got it somewhere else?

Gonna try again. brb

aha, it works now!

Edit - I just checked online content via the game and downloaded all those AI's and Libraries.

Zażółć gęślą jaźń.

I think the AI got locked somehow... it's constantly trying to build something but is unable to.

erhm... oops, it's not locked. It's still building other routes, but it still tries to do that one all the time.

umturumtu

Kogut wrote:Zażółć gęślą jaźń.

Kogut wrote:umturumtu

English please ... but thanks for the report.

Samu wrote:I think the AI got locked somehow... it's constantly trying to build something but is unable to.

erhm... oops, it's not locked. It's still building other routes, but it still tries to do that one all the time.

Well, that is a kind of simultaneous-batch-path-finding. (errr... didn't find a correct word)
But as long as the red box didn't show, or going to bankrupt it doesn't matter. thanks