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After a day's work, I finished converting the Locomotive from the RCT American miniature railway sprites! Tomorrow I will tackle the tender, and then possibly the coaches.

For some reason, when I go to save the compiled XML as a DAT in VC, I go through the process to save it, but when I go to find it in the location, It's not there. I've double checked things and I'm not sure why this happened. It worked with the taits.

Here is the folder containing the sprites and XML if anyone wants to try.
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I'll see if I can just yoink the sprites over to the existing Baldwin 2-8-0, then do some stat tweaking, and DONE! (hopefully)
= STEAM TRAM viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87037 =+= CITY AND COUNTRY USA viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87054 =+= MAILCAR PATCH viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87071 =+= THE DECLINE viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87127 =+= NEW STATIONS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87191=+= DISTANT SIGNALS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87206 =+= AUSSIE LEVEL CROSSING viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87364 =+= BROAD GAUGE FOR LOCOMOTION viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87336 =

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Ok, can you keep the stats I entered though? I can't wait for it to be finished! :mrgreen:
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Well, I just converted over the sprites, and went to test it and later put in the stats, but i did not work at all.
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= STEAM TRAM viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87037 =+= CITY AND COUNTRY USA viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87054 =+= MAILCAR PATCH viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87071 =+= THE DECLINE viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87127 =+= NEW STATIONS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87191=+= DISTANT SIGNALS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87206 =+= AUSSIE LEVEL CROSSING viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87364 =+= BROAD GAUGE FOR LOCOMOTION viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87336 =

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griffinrails wrote:
18 Jun 2020 08:03
Well, I just converted over the sprites, and went to test it and later put in the stats, but i did not work at all.
(edited due to a typo)
Woah nelly! That thing is going ballistic! :lol: It looks like it's missing sprites and substituting others for them, and what's up with the twitching?

Any ideas?
I will look and check things over again.

Aha! I think I know why it is acting up! You see, with a regular lomo sprite, the image most likely looks like this:
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Notice all the blue area around it

With the sprites for the RCT locos, they are like this:
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See, no excess blue area to make it's movements. The images for the RCT loco and tender are all sized to be as small as possible. They are as big as the sprite itself. this means that when going through an animation, the images are constantly resizing. We need to figure out how to get more blue area. We need to resize all images to one default size and then fill them with blue.
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Chris Sawyer split the sprite into necessary space of work. Without that extra blue space the objects on game are lightweight. With some kilobytes per file in a massive files translate in dozens of megabytes. Remind those games should be written on Compact Disk with most of weight of the game are soundtracks of music.!

The same happen on Locomotion objects data exist a offsets value let every Sprite. Locate the RCT xml file with the offset value. Should be the same. ( I think )
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Not sure that I'll be able to help too much with this.
Could I have an update on how the Tait is going?
= STEAM TRAM viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87037 =+= CITY AND COUNTRY USA viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87054 =+= MAILCAR PATCH viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87071 =+= THE DECLINE viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87127 =+= NEW STATIONS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87191=+= DISTANT SIGNALS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87206 =+= AUSSIE LEVEL CROSSING viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87364 =+= BROAD GAUGE FOR LOCOMOTION viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87336 =

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Manuel18 wrote:
19 Jun 2020 03:15
Chris Sawyer split the sprite into necessary space of work. Without that extra blue space the objects on game are lightweight. With some kilobytes per file in a massive files translate in dozens of megabytes. Remind those games should be written on Compact Disk with most of weight of the game are soundtracks of music.!

The same happen on Locomotion objects data exist a offsets value let every Sprite. Locate the RCT xml file with the offset value. Should be the same. ( I think )
I somewhat understand, but also don't understand. What is it you want me to look for?
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Not sure that I'll be able to help too much with this.
Could I have an update on how the Tait is going?
Taits are going ok, going to fix the compatibilities today. Could you instruct me on how to add on bogies? you said you had some :D
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(posted here to keep the release thread empty)
Thanks so much for the Taits! Could I link the download in my signature since I helped out?
= STEAM TRAM viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87037 =+= CITY AND COUNTRY USA viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87054 =+= MAILCAR PATCH viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87071 =+= THE DECLINE viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87127 =+= NEW STATIONS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87191=+= DISTANT SIGNALS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87206 =+= AUSSIE LEVEL CROSSING viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87364 =+= BROAD GAUGE FOR LOCOMOTION viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87336 =

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griffinrails wrote:
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(posted here to keep the release thread empty)
Thanks so much for the Taits! Could I link the download in my signature since I helped out?
Sure! Version 2.0 taits could include the bogies as well, and I may ask Walter how to do custom sounds.
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Well, after some fun testing, I've decided that the addition of bogeys wouldn't do anything. Some sounds would be quite nice, especially some new horns.
I'm going to start toying around with making a Red/White paintscheme for them. Maybe later down the line I could make 'The Boat Train' Tait. I should be able to tackle all that myself.
Also, about the RCT2 loco, the pre-existing sprites actually look like this: (see pic below)
So, this process is going to be very hard. Maybe Manuel18 or Walter1940 could help out.

In the meantime, i'm working on Broad Gauge Track, and was wondering if you wanted the Tait to be compatible, since IRL it is 5ft 3in gauge. I've made a collection of edited assets so far, and am currently trying out some new stations for BG. Maybe an Indian station? I'm going to soon make a thread for the BG mod itself.
(Don't worry, i'll edit the Taits themselves.)
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Blaxlandridge3 wrote:
20 Jun 2020 01:23
Sure! Version 2.0 taits could include the bogies as well, and I may ask Walter how to do custom sounds.
OK, and what are you thinking about?
griffinrails wrote:
20 Jun 2020 04:19
So, this process is going to be very hard. Maybe Manuel18 or Walter1940 could help out.
How can I help and with what?
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- From MSTS to Locomotion ---> http://www.walter1940.de/tutorial/msts2loco/
- Wally ---> http://www.walter1940.de/tutorial/wally/
- xml-modding ---> http://www.walter1940.de/tutorial/xml-modding/

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Walter1940 wrote:
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Blaxlandridge3 wrote:
20 Jun 2020 01:23
Sure! Version 2.0 taits could include the bogies as well, and I may ask Walter how to do custom sounds.
OK, and what are you thinking about?
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20 Jun 2020 04:19
So, this process is going to be very hard. Maybe Manuel18 or Walter1940 could help out.
How can I help and with what?
How can I add custom sounds to mods like you do?

Griffin, I didn't know the taits were broad, although I think unless someone were to make like, an australian scenario, It would be sort of annoying with another track type. Why does the RCT loco look exactly like the baldwin?

Version 2.0 of the Tait EMU could include the "Boat Train" Scheme, and custom sounds with help from Walter.
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In principle, it is very simple. See here ---> https://www.walter1940.de/tutorial/xml- ... english/#D
What does work is to find the right set. But I can help you there. However, I am currently having problems creating new individual sound sets. Something is wrong, although the scheme is always the same. But I have around 30 - 35 finished sets. I just need to know what kind of engine or drive the vehicle has.In addition, an original comparison sound file would not be bad.
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I'll check that out, thanks
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Ok, I've fixed the problem and can create new sound sets again.
I also counted. I already have over 60 different soundsets of my own.
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The sprite that I showed is from the default Baldwin 2-8-0. I've found this video that should help you identify what sounds to use https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vVhYUHZHgY
Hope this helps!
= STEAM TRAM viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87037 =+= CITY AND COUNTRY USA viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87054 =+= MAILCAR PATCH viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87071 =+= THE DECLINE viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87127 =+= NEW STATIONS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87191=+= DISTANT SIGNALS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87206 =+= AUSSIE LEVEL CROSSING viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87364 =+= BROAD GAUGE FOR LOCOMOTION viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87336 =

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I think I have something in stock.
Should I send it to Blaxlandridge3 or should I install it? :roll:
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- xml-modding ---> http://www.walter1940.de/tutorial/xml-modding/

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Ver 2 will be released today with Walter's sounds. Thanks walter! :D
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Tried it out, and it was fantastic! Thanks Walter! I'll start work on the next liveries ASAP.
Maybe you could do some XML editing to the trees so that they get rid of the need to make thousands of them for you to just demolish 1 house. It's been done to the Common Beach Tree, labelled as "The super tree", available on Wisim-Welt.
https://www.wisim-welt.de/wsc/index.php ... Super+Baum
https://www.wisim-welt.de/filebase/inde ... uper-baum/

I feel that we would ALL want to use this mod :mrgreen:
= STEAM TRAM viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87037 =+= CITY AND COUNTRY USA viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87054 =+= MAILCAR PATCH viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87071 =+= THE DECLINE viewtopic.php?f=39&t=87127 =+= NEW STATIONS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87191=+= DISTANT SIGNALS viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87206 =+= AUSSIE LEVEL CROSSING viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87364 =+= BROAD GAUGE FOR LOCOMOTION viewtopic.php?f=40&t=87336 =

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