[WIP] The Trolleybus Project

Breeze646 · Post by **Breeze646** » 04 May 2006 19:59

ah okay Thanks I might give it a try soon.

Kosov_1986 · Post by **Kosov_1986** » 04 May 2006 20:30

Great! I hope SQ can help in gfx, because his Ikarus buses look realistic... i'm lucky because here in my city, and in the whole Hungary many Ikarus buses are still in use. My city (Pecs) have IK 260, IK 280, IK 415, a few (about 6) IK 435 and Mercedes O345 and O345G (the G is the articulated one). And a few Mercedes Citaro solo but they are very few.

In some countries (ex-communist countries, like Russia, Romania, Bulgaria, Vietnam, Cuba) Ikarus buses are still running

Edited: The coaches (which is inter-city or inter-village lines) are a different corporation. It has many IK 250, IK256, IK 266, IK 415, IK 395/E95, some IK 260.32 (which have 2 doors, in the 2 ends of the bus) and IK 397/E97, IK 398/E98 2 of IK 280.17 or 280.23, (i don't know, they are old and have 3 doors), and MAN SL283, Mercedes O345, NABI SE700, and some Irizar.

This page you can see them Click on the name of the types, so it will show them![/url]

wyctor · Post by **wyctor** » 04 May 2006 20:56

in Veszprem, there are IK 260s (so many), 263s(only 2), 280 s(soooo many), Neoplan NFs (i don't know what is the correct name of the type, 9 pieces of this bus), MAN NG 272s(only 2), and VOLVO B7LAs (only 5)...

The VOLVOs came in March, they're from Säffle, Sweden. After the VOLVOs, Neoplans and MAN NG 272s are the youngests. In the next 5 months, a new solo bus'll come, but I don't know what type...(it'll be 70 million Forints, it means, it's nearly 280000 Euros)...i think it'll be Mercedes Citaro, it has become a very popular new bus in our country, Debrecen, Pecs, Miskolc, and Szeged buys new Citaros, so I hope, Veszprem is the next

Seelenquell · Post by **Seelenquell** » 04 May 2006 21:07

sounds like a big list of still not modeled busses in loco

Kosov_1986 · Post by **Kosov_1986** » 04 May 2006 21:38

SQ: Ikaruses are very similar. 250, 256, 260, 280 were popular, they were sent all over the world... some had very special options.
Many Ikarus were sent to East Germany (DDR), Czehslovakia (Czeh Republic and Slovakian Republic nowdays, they split up), USSR (nowdays Russia), Ukraina (former USSR member), Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Vietnam, Cuba, China, Venezuela, Ethiopia, Madagascar, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, and there were IK 286, which runs in USA and Canada (some runs in Ottawa and Toronto, i saw them at a canadian webpage).

http://busexplorer.com/PHP/MidPage.php?id=1242
http://www.barp.ca/bus/usa/tri737.jpg

PS: Sorry for doublepost!

Breeze646 · Post by **Breeze646** » 05 May 2006 13:32

Well my current city is at the year 2049. So I'm using the Low Floor buses SQ Made. I think that looks very more modern.

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » 08 May 2006 04:57

Kosov_1986 wrote:SQ: Ikaruses are very similar. 250, 256, 260, 280 were popular, they were sent all over the world... some had very special options.
Many Ikarus were sent to East Germany (DDR), Czehslovakia (Czeh Republic and Slovakian Republic nowdays, they split up), USSR (nowdays Russia), Ukraina (former USSR member), Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Vietnam, Cuba, China, Venezuela, Ethiopia, Madagascar, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, and there were IK 286, which runs in USA and Canada (some runs in Ottawa and Toronto, i saw them at a canadian webpage).

http://busexplorer.com/PHP/MidPage.php?id=1242
http://www.barp.ca/bus/usa/tri737.jpg

PS: Sorry for doublepost!

China bought them from post-1950,I saw a IK256 in Liaoning privdence when I still was a high school student 3 years ago.
And historial,Beijing and Dalian have small number of IK 280 runs Beijing's route 44(run over 2nd highway)and Dalian's 401/402 route

Kosov_1986 · Post by **Kosov_1986** » 09 May 2006 19:12

Samuel wrote:
Kosov_1986 wrote:SQ: Ikaruses are very similar. 250, 256, 260, 280 were popular, they were sent all over the world... some had very special options.
Many Ikarus were sent to East Germany (DDR), Czehslovakia (Czeh Republic and Slovakian Republic nowdays, they split up), USSR (nowdays Russia), Ukraina (former USSR member), Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Vietnam, Cuba, China, Venezuela, Ethiopia, Madagascar, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, and there were IK 286, which runs in USA and Canada (some runs in Ottawa and Toronto, i saw them at a canadian webpage).

http://busexplorer.com/PHP/MidPage.php?id=1242
http://www.barp.ca/bus/usa/tri737.jpg

PS: Sorry for doublepost!
China bought them from post-1950,I saw a IK256 in Liaoning privdence when I still was a high school student 3 years ago.
And historial,Beijing and Dalian have small number of IK 280 runs Beijing's route 44(run over 2nd highway)and Dalian's 401/402 route

Great! My city have many IK 280s, they run on many lines, but the Mercedes O345G (G is articulated) runs on almost all lines which have articulated buses (my city has about 160 000 people and it's at the south end of a Hill called Mecsek) so some lines have single (solo) buses. But the Mercedes are made in Turkey. I don't know why Hungarian cities buy western types like MAN or Mercedes or some buy Solaris or Volvo. Personally i hate them! Why don't we use our national buses? IK 417 is also low-floor ultra-modern bus type, articulated, with Euro4 diesel engine. They can compete with any of these western buses. Maybe the transport companies are corrupts and they buy them.

My city has an IK 246 (the 3-door city line version of 256.44, which is a C56 with serie 200 front and back)

This is "Esso" bus (nowdays it is blue&white)

PennCentral · Post by **PennCentral** » 10 May 2006 01:39

Good to see this actually getting worked out

wyctor · Post by **wyctor** » 10 May 2006 16:56

there is an off topic too...I know that I was the first, who started posting offs but, i think i have to be the last too

so, i'm still waiting for new trolley buses...

Breeze646 · Post by **Breeze646** » 11 May 2006 12:57

Kosov_1986 wrote:SQ: Ikaruses are very similar. 250, 256, 260, 280 were popular, they were sent all over the world... some had very special options.
Many Ikarus were sent to East Germany (DDR), Czehslovakia (Czeh Republic and Slovakian Republic nowdays, they split up), USSR (nowdays Russia), Ukraina (former USSR member), Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Vietnam, Cuba, China, Venezuela, Ethiopia, Madagascar, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, and there were IK 286, which runs in USA and Canada (some runs in Ottawa and Toronto, i saw them at a canadian webpage).

http://busexplorer.com/PHP/MidPage.php?id=1242
http://www.barp.ca/bus/usa/tri737.jpg

PS: Sorry for doublepost!

Just a correction, They used to run in Ottawa and Toronto. I liked em beter then the new articulated buses. These new ones are s***. They get stuck in the winter. The Ikarus ones don't. That's why there's much beter then the new ones. (Also the new ones are the bus in my avatar)

Also as for Toronto they don't have articulated buses anymore. Since there was s*** unlike the ones in Ottawa. There articulated joints rusted too quickly. I think they don't trust the Articulated buses anymore but there buses are now Overcrowded there. So there thinking of getting some articulated buses.

Kosov_1986 · Post by **Kosov_1986** » 13 May 2006 01:50

Hello!
Articulated buses are very popular here. I mean many cities have articulated buses in Hungary, i think the whole Europe has them, because many people have passanger cars but if you want to go to the city center it's the more efficient way. In my city (which is south from a hill (the city expanded to the hillside 100 years ago) articulated uses can't go there, because of the steep corners, and in winter they would stuck, so they don't run there. Bit the main East-West line has articulated buses, and the south-to-citycenter lines also. My city have many flats, it is a university city (used to be industrial city, had uranium and coal mines) so it has a much smaller area than Szeged, but Pecs (my city) and Szeged have almost the same population. We don't even have IK 286, they were specially designed for american norms, they were 260 cm wide, in my country every vehicle have to be 250 cm wide (1 incs = 2,5 cm) except oversized trucks which need special driving license (license for oversized and overweighted trucks, which need special route, which can requested by loval authories).

wyctor · Post by **wyctor** » 13 May 2006 12:31

Ok, that's enough...waiting for trolley buses

Breeze646 · Post by **Breeze646** » 13 May 2006 18:08

Oh ya going to try to convert one of my Customized default buses which I use untill the SQ Buses come out (The Low floor ones) since it looks like the GMC Classic but has a rear door. I also added way more capacity. It helps untill the good buses come out. So I'll upload it in a bit. Also I may try to make it the first trolley bus.

Breeze646 · Post by **Breeze646** » 13 May 2006 18:14

wyctor wrote:not a very big work...you have to write the anytrack bit from 1 to 0, and you have to put in the eowroad1 require variable, rename the vehicle, and the compatibe name, and make the dat.

What variable do I have to put the eowroad1 thing in...

wyctor · Post by **wyctor** » 14 May 2006 08:52

You have to change the anytrack bit from 1 to 0
Normal buses:

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		<bit name="anytrack">1</bit>

Trolley bus:

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		<bit name="anytrack">0</bit>

And after that, you have to put in the tracktype, and trackmod variable
like this:

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	<useobject desc="tracktype" class="20">EOWROAD1</useobject>
	<useobject desc="trackmod" class="19">RDEXCAT1</useobject>

I've put it between the language and capacity variable.

So looks like this:

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	<description num="0" language="11">Combi Trolley Bus</description>
	<useobject desc="tracktype" class="20">EOWROAD1</useobject>
	<useobject desc="trackmod" class="19">RDEXCAT1</useobject>
	<cargo num="0" capacity="255">
		<cargotype id="12">0</cargotype>

other:
I've modded GM Classic with Trailer. I think it could be a good articulated trolley bus. http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=390114#390114

wyctor · Post by **wyctor** » 14 May 2006 09:17

SQ, I hope you won't be angry...

I've modded your CLRV to run on my Electric Overhead Road. If you don't mind, I'll share it with the other trolley fans

waiting for your reply

EDIT: By coincidence, I've modded ALRV too

Breeze646 · Post by **Breeze646** » 14 May 2006 21:02

Lol if I hadn't requested it you wouldn't have been able to mod it. But lol I would love to see the CLRV converted to a bus. (Otherwords replace the steel wheels with rubber wheels and then it would look like a bus and act like one)

Anyway I'll try converting all the buses I have. (Including the default one I did a major mod too)

EDIT: Okay what editor do you have to edit the XML With???

Seelenquell · Post by **Seelenquell** » 14 May 2006 22:56

wyctor wrote:SQ, I hope you won't be angry...

I've modded your CLRV to run on my Electric Overhead Road. If you don't mind, I'll share it with the other trolley fans waiting for your reply

EDIT: By coincidence, I've modded ALRV too

sry guys.. was a bit busy last days.. anyway you have my ok

Breeze646 · Post by **Breeze646** » 15 May 2006 02:09

So I can mod you buses then??? Okay well still I need to know what program to mod them with in the first place.

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