Bigger stations

Chico · Post by **Chico** » 28 Sep 2004 14:24

Hi,

I have been reading this forum for a long time, but I never posted anything before. First, I would like to thanks all the people who have brought many great improvements to TTD and locomotion.

Now my question : It seems that you can only build a limited number of platforms for a station before you have a "station too spread" message. Is it possible to change that number ? Or is there a chance to see a mod one day ?

ampz · Post by **ampz** » 28 Sep 2004 14:45

I think such a patch would be bad for gameplay.
You are not supposed to be able to build stations with unlimited catchment area...

LaDoncella · Post by **LaDoncella** » 28 Sep 2004 16:06

I can imagine it, a planetary sized station

4Eyessniper · Post by **4Eyessniper** » 28 Sep 2004 16:23

I agree, too large isnt good!

I wish there were some more shapes and types of stations though, so they could look more like this station in amsterdam sloterdijk:

http://www.nlr.nl/public/facilities/f083/2713-m4.jpg

(Yes it is a model, but it's a real station as well)

Or Duivendrecht (crappy resolution photo, but you'll get the point

)
http://www.stationsweb.nl/duivendrecht/afb4.jpg

Loewe13 · Post by **Loewe13** » 28 Sep 2004 17:06

the monorail mod im building will include an own stationtype because its lifted above the ground, the normal station would look ugly when using this kind of railway. but i make it compatible with the normal stations so that you can make "normal, monorail, normal, monorail, normal" or such combinations

but the pictures you have attached are already possible just make a track which is 10 meters or 16 foot higher than the other track and you can make vertical stations

Chico · Post by **Chico** » 28 Sep 2004 17:23

I don't mind having a greater catchment area. I would like to make 10x8 stations, with one subway station. I try to recreate some places that exist in real life.

ChrisCF · Post by **ChrisCF** » 28 Sep 2004 17:23

I think it needs to be 32ft, if I'm not mistaken

Vimp · Post by **Vimp** » 28 Sep 2004 18:28

Chico wrote:I don't mind having a greater catchment area. I would like to make 10x8 stations, with one subway station. I try to recreate some places that exist in real life.

Is that the limit for you? I have 2 stations that are 20x2. Can you not have 20x8?

TheDaian · Post by **TheDaian** » 28 Sep 2004 19:38

Vimp wrote:
Chico wrote:I don't mind having a greater catchment area. I would like to make 10x8 stations, with one subway station. I try to recreate some places that exist in real life.
Is that the limit for you? I have 2 stations that are 20x2. Can you not have 20x8?

10x8 = 80 tiles.
20x2 = 40 tiles.

i'm not all too sure what the limit actually is, though. i think a good bit of it is the actual catchment area. you might be able to build a 20x8 station, if they're all side by side platforms. but building a 20x3 station, then trying to build.. say, a 20x2 station at a right angle to that will cause a problem, as it would then spread out to about 20x20.

JTanczos · Post by **JTanczos** » 28 Sep 2004 19:50

I wouldnt use it for unlimited catchment area but I do play in sandbox mode where I have my own steel mill. I have every iron ore and coal train on the map run to it on parrellel tracks. Also named a food processing plant after my GF which is near it so I run grain and livestock to that station as well. I tell her it does breakfast products and donuts. LOL She thinks im nuts. Problem I have is getting the supplies there without having steel and food trains cloggin everything up. This unfortunitly happens quite a bit.

Would love to have 2 layers of stations similar to the pics above. Have all the goods trains on top and all the supply trains on bottom.

If someone could make a mod that would be great. If used to cheat it will just ruin their own gaming experience. Just cause the no breakdown and unlimited money mods are out doesnt mean you have to use em.

JT

TheDaian · Post by **TheDaian** » 28 Sep 2004 19:54

Jtanczos wrote:Would love to have 2 layers of stations similar to the pics above. Have all the goods trains on top and all the supply trains on bottom.

you can do that now. sorta. as far as i know, stations can be built UP or DOWN as much as you want. it's just a matter of how much money you have and how much of a mess you want the station to be. (building multi-level stations will cause the problem of it being very hard to see the lower station)

JTanczos · Post by **JTanczos** » 28 Sep 2004 20:02

TheDaian wrote:
Jtanczos wrote:Would love to have 2 layers of stations similar to the pics above. Have all the goods trains on top and all the supply trains on bottom.
you can do that now. sorta. as far as i know, stations can be built UP or DOWN as much as you want. it's just a matter of how much money you have and how much of a mess you want the station to be. (building multi-level stations will cause the problem of it being very hard to see the lower station)

well... I would do something that ended up looking like a +. If I could make a bigger station I would just have dedicated lines for pickup and lines for drop off. Im not worried about "station too spread out" even, im having a problem with "Station is too large"

*edit* Attachec pic

JT

fsdave · Post by **fsdave** » 28 Sep 2004 20:29

Should be able to have curved stations

Loewe13 · Post by **Loewe13** » 28 Sep 2004 20:43

Im doing it often in a way, you could see easier when you look at a screenshot I made some seconds ago, it shows how easy multilevel stations can be made and used. on the left is the grain and livestock delivery and the 2 tracks for the food transport from the food processong plant into the city, which you can see in the middle and right very high is a 3 track station for passenger and mail transport not very cheap, but its worth it.

Tyrell · Post by **Tyrell** » 28 Sep 2004 23:50

limits so far as I understand them:

Station tiles/units: 80 (hard limit)

Station length: no direct hard limit.
- 20x1 station can be created without using side tracks.
- 33x1 station can be created, but takes a lot of click work (unpractically)

Station capture area: no direct hard limit.
- single station tiles can be positioned a pritty long way away from the main station.

Train length: 33 ground tiles.
(you can create longer trains, but you can't put them on the tracks)

Singaporekid · Post by **Singaporekid** » 29 Sep 2004 06:21

Try decoding trstat4.dat, it has horizontal and vertical graphics for the city station

norfolksouthern37 · Post by **norfolksouthern37** » 29 Sep 2004 06:37

singaporekid_92 wrote:Try decoding trstat4.dat, it has horizontal and vertical graphics for the city station

whats your point kid?

all of them do except 2

Tyrell · Post by **Tyrell** » 29 Sep 2004 13:06

hola, graphics for diagonal stations. (map diagonals)
To bad they don't work yet.
Meaby next thing is curved stations

JTanczos · Post by **JTanczos** » 30 Sep 2004 21:15

So anyone find out if there is any way to increase the station size? I really want to extend the length of my priority stations so I can have longer but fewer amount of trains running. which would probably help my congestion problem around those stations

fsdave · Post by **fsdave** » 30 Sep 2004 22:16

Do your trains actually get full?

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