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LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 23 Aug 2013 17:32
by OpenRailer90
Hi, i need help because in Windows 7, Locomod crashes when I load a savegame! Please help so I can edit my savegames.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 23 Aug 2013 18:20
by Zakos
That happens with certain saved games. No one can quite figure out what makes it crash, but you will not be able to edit that file.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 23 Aug 2013 18:59
by OpenRailer90
Ugh. **sigh**...I just wanted to delete one object from my objdata roster for the scenario-I want to remove USATHCO3.dat from it - the amfleet is in, the heritage car is useless.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 23 Aug 2013 19:43
by Zakos
Unless the 224 limit has been reached and you want another vehicle, you'll have to live with it.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 24 Aug 2013 15:18
by OpenRailer90
I just want to remove the Amtrak Phase III heritage car. It has no purpose whatsoever because there's an Amfleet coach I made available.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 25 Aug 2013 16:21
by Badger
tycoonkid9 wrote:I just want to remove the ******* Amtrak Phase III heritage car. It has no purpose whatsoever because there's an Amfleet coach I made available.
No need to swear though is there? I'm pretty sure it's not the end of the world if you can't remove the vehicle.
Calm down and watch your language.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 27 Aug 2013 17:43
by OpenRailer90
I need help again. I want to remove the soundfiles snd220ho, snd103ho, and snde03ho. None of the ingame vehicles use it and how can I remove it?

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 27 Aug 2013 17:58
by Zakos
You're positive that none of the vehicles use it? If even one vehicle needs it and you take it out, Locomotion will crash.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 27 Aug 2013 22:50
by OpenRailer90
I am very positive that the vehicles do not use the forementioned items. Locomotion does not crash - what happens is I return to the main menu screen. The dumb thing is that LocoMod always crashes. However, it has no problem on default scenarios.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 27 Aug 2013 23:02
by Zakos
I suppose I should reiterate: LocoMod crashes are not explainable, and happen only to certain savegames. It has nothing to do with whether or not the scenario is custom-made. In fact, if you have two separate games under the same scenario and one crashes, it's likely that the other one works fine.

Back to the new problem: When it crashes, does it say it's missing something?

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 28 Aug 2013 13:49
by OpenRailer90
When it crashed, it says Locotool has stopped working. If i use a default scenario, it's perfectly okay.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 28 Aug 2013 18:43
by Zakos
What does the game tell you when it goes to the main menu?

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 28 Aug 2013 19:27
by OpenRailer90
When it exists to the main menu, it says missing ID. i cant remember the rest.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 28 Aug 2013 21:07
by Greyfox
Hello tycoonkid9,

Obviously, you are missing an object of some kind. Unfortunately, the error message only lasts for a second or two. This is the way I would go about it:

Have a pen & paper ready. Start Loco, start the scenario, then write down as much as you can before the message disappears. You probably won't remember the I.D. at the first attempt, so repeat the procedure until you get the full name of the i.D. Don't take any notice of the numbers that appear after the I.D., they are only randomly generated and are not going to help you. Then search the forums and some of the more popular Loco sites, such as Amitrains, datCrawler etc. If all else fails then do a Google search. As a guide, the first three letters of the I.D. should give you some idea what the dat file is all about. Such as, "SND" could indicate a sound file, or "US something' could indicate the files is from the CLW pack found on the Amitrains site, and so on. It can take a little effort, but if you can keep "plugging away" at your searches you will be rewarded.

Hope this helps

Kind regards,

Greyfox.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 29 Aug 2013 01:21
by Zakos
Greyfox wrote:Don't take any notice of the numbers that appear after the I.D., they are only randomly generated and are not going to help you. Then search the forums and some of the more popular Loco sites, such as Amitrains, datCrawler etc. If all else fails then do a Google search. As a guide, the first three letters of the I.D. should give you some idea what the dat file is all about. Such as, "SND" could indicate a sound file, or "US something' could indicate the files is from the CLW pack found on the Amitrains site, and so on. It can take a little effort, but if you can keep "plugging away" at your searches you will be rewarded.
What he means by the first part is that only the first 8 digits matter; they are the name of the missing .dat file.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 29 Aug 2013 02:22
by OpenRailer90
Well none of my engines use the soundfiles snd220ho and snd103ho. I wish you can deselect sound files and cargos in th scenario editor.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 29 Aug 2013 03:05
by Zakos
Typically, sound files and cargo files aren't even in the scenario unless you select something that requires them.

You shouldn't take any sound files out to begin with. Even if you're positive that nothing uses it, it still may have a purpose or used to. If a sound has EVER been played in a certain savegame, it will probably crash if the file is taken out.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 29 Aug 2013 03:45
by Greyfox
@LocoRoller: As for the First part of the dat file shown in the error message, I already stated that. It could be related to a pack that he already has downloaded but has a missing file. The method that I submitted worked for me on more than one occasion. If he keeps looking, he will find it. Best wait and see what happens. No point in posting for the sake of it.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 29 Aug 2013 04:30
by Zakos
I'm trying as much as you are to be helpful. That post was just for clarification. At this point I'm not even sure if the problem is with the scenario, or the savegame.

Re: LocoMod Crashes

Posted: 29 Aug 2013 05:08
by OpenRailer90
I actually tried it before and the cargo did not get deselected. Now it's the sound i'm having problems with.