[HOWTO]Add things to Road, Normal Gauge & Narrow Gauge?

[Hyronymus]

If im adding them to road. Where do i find road?
Ok. So let me get this through my head. I have to replace the bridge or station with (road.dat) or (trackst.dat or narrow gauge (trackng.dat)?

For the last time before issueing a warning: read the whole topic carefully and use your imagination. What's been written here may not apply litterally, find the concept / the generic idea behind it.

[IT WONT WORK!]

If im adding them to road. Where do i find road?
Ok. So let me get this through my head. I have to replace the bridge or station with (road.dat) or (trackst.dat or narrow gauge (trackng.dat)?........................................


A warning? For asking for help with this? wtf did i do? I read the damn thing like 666 times. Can you just answer my question? I just am trying to learn this stuff man.

[Plastikman]

it has been answered.

there are hundred posts out there of people complaining that bridges, signals and stations dont work...

those are advanced mods because you have to EDIT your TRACK file....

Look at what i put in red.

here is one example of someone asking the exact same question about zimmlocks sheds.....
http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=789755#p789755

there are many more.. hints* search for bridge, station, trackst, etc.

[IT WONT WORK!]

Please watch this video i made. Did i follow the steps right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVqxpKWTnEs



Edit: A couple hours later. I figured it out. thanks
I can add stations but i can't add bridges?

[JOVillamor]

i tried it and it didnt work

[cartographer29]

From http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=53219

I've successfully installed Earth Slopes, the Steel Bridge, and am now trying for the Arch Bridge. However, it seems as though the 3rd and final bridge, in whatever combination I try and install them, makes all others become unavailable.

In the scenario creator, all bridge types, including the custom ones, show up and can be selected. However, when I try and play the game, one of two things happens ...

- If only 2 custom bridges are installed and referenced in the TRACKST.DAT, then they will show properly in the list of bridge options when laying track, and can be used willingly.
- If all 3 custom bridges are installed and referenced in the TRACKST.DAT, NONE will show in the list of bridge options and only the game default bridges are available. However, if I build anything but standard track (road, tram, etc.), the Arch bridge is an available option (it's the only custom bridge installed for every mode other than standard rail).

Posting my XML here to see if anyone can find the error. Haven't been able to find the problem and I've gone through the process at least 3 times. Obviously missing something.

[Plastikman]

From http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=53219

I've successfully installed Earth Slopes, the Steel Bridge, and am now trying for the Arch Bridge. However, it seems as though the 3rd and final bridge, in whatever combination I try and install them, makes all others become unavailable.

In the scenario creator, all bridge types, including the custom ones, show up and can be selected. However, when I try and play the game, one of two things happens ...

- If only 2 custom bridges are installed and referenced in the TRACKST.DAT, then they will show properly in the list of bridge options when laying track, and can be used willingly.
- If all 3 custom bridges are installed and referenced in the TRACKST.DAT, NONE will show in the list of bridge options and only the game default bridges are available. However, if I build anything but standard track (road, tram, etc.), the Arch bridge is an available option (it's the only custom bridge installed for every mode other than standard rail).

Posting my XML here to see if anyone can find the error. Haven't been able to find the problem and I've gone through the process at least 3 times. Obviously missing something.

Two big problems with this tutorial. as is, It wont work.

1 You fail to mention the maximum number of mods you can add to a road/track, 7 for stations and bridges. and 16 for signals and only 1 for tunnels.

2 You have to tell the XML how many Mods for each type to look for in the mods section.

Snipped from Trackst.dat. the same lines are valid for the other track/road types.

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  	</bitmask>
	<variable name="numcompat" size="1">7</variable>
	<variable name="nummods" size="1">2</variable>
	<variable name="numsignals" size="1">14</variable>    <===========<<< You need to change this line to reflect how many signals You have. (Max 16)
	<variable name="buildcostfact" size="2">11</variable>
	<variable name="sellcostfact" size="2">-10</variable>
	<variable name="tunnelcostfact" size="2">49</variable>
	<variable name="costind" size="1">1</variable>
	<variable name="curvespeed" size="2">400</variable>
	<unknown name="field_1E[4]" size="1">1</unknown>
	<variable name="numbridges" size="1">7</variable>     <===========<<< You need to change this line to reflect how many bridges You have. (Max 7)
	<variable name="numstations" size="1">7</variable>    <===========<<< You need to change this line to reflect how many stations You have. (Max 7)
	<variable name="displayoffset" size="1">3</variable>
	<description num="0" language="0">Railway Track</description>

You exceeded the maximum number of bridges per track file.

[cartographer29]

You exceeded the maximum number of bridges per track file.

Could have sworn I read it was 8 somewhere. Perhaps it is because it lists 8 in the scenario creator. Hmmm ... such a pain. Oh well.

Is it possible to remove any of the "in game" bridges to create room for any extra custom ones? Suspension bridge never tickled my fancy really.

Edit: Trial and error answered my question. Yes, I can. So now I have my custom bridges, and the never used suspension bridge has been removed for rail use.

[LocoDeltic]

This has probably been asked A LOT but I've only just joined and couldnt find the search option.

I've downloaded a set of locomotion sheds, installed them. They do come up to select for availablity to use when making a custom scenario and I've selected them, but when I play that scenario they don't appear.

Do I have to use all this coding stuff to get them to work?

[Illegal_Alien]

Erm yes...

[pschlik]

The provo utah sub has a track file with the stuff already in it but it won't work still

[pschlik]

Ok, now it's working

[alphanumeric]

I dunno why this thread makes my blood boil.

someone needs to be fired.

[Badger]

I dunno why this thread makes my blood boil.

someone needs to be fired.

Very helpful, care to elaborate?

[Zakos]

To all who read this, as it is probably the most useful topic for 1st-time loco editors:

At the risk of broken-recordness: Read the whole topic and start at the beginning. Please.

A few months ago I felt the same way, ridiculously confused. Keep the thread open as you work, and consult it. A good idea that seems to solve a lot of these issues: Heed the warnings of the maximum variable values, or just explain why it won't work instead of stating that it won't. Good luck.


Badger, Hyro, etc., let me know if this is backseat moderation. It was just driving me nuts.

[Hyronymus]

Badger, Hyro, etc., let me know if this is backseat moderation. It was just driving me nuts.

Not really in my opinion but I wonder if it helps.

[nobodyelse]

hi i have a problem and i followed every move on the forum and read it 3 times and when i try to compile the .xml file to .dat i keep recieving a message that says "couldn't find object to use for compatible[2]".
This is a part of what i edited in NLROAD.dat:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<object class="0x94" subclass="0x118EAF" name="NLROAD "><chunk compression="1">
<bitmask name="roadpieces" size="2">
<bit name="smallcurve">1</bit>
<bit name="tightcurve">1</bit>
<bit name="normalslope">1</bit>
<bit name="steepslope">1</bit>
<bit name="bit_4">1</bit>
<bit name="reverse">0</bit>
<bit name="bit_6">1</bit>
</bitmask>
<variable name="buildcostfact" size="2">22</variable>
<variable name="sellcostfact" size="2">-20</variable>
<variable name="tunnelcostfact" size="2">55</variable>
<variable name="costind" size="1">1</variable>
<unknown name="field_B[1]" size="1">50</unknown>
<unknown name="field_B[7]" size="1">220</unknown>
<unknown name="field_B[8]" size="1">1</unknown>
<variable name="numbridges" size="1">5</variable>
<unknown name="field_15[7]" size="1">7</unknown>
<variable name="numstations" size="1">0</variable>
<variable name="numcompat" size="1">2</variable> <==== i've changed the nr from 1 to 2
<unknown name="field_29[5]" size="1">2</unknown>
<description num="0" language="0">Road</description>
<description num="0" language="1">Road</description>
<description num="0" language="2">Road</description>
<description num="0" language="3">Road</description>
<description num="0" language="4">Road</description>
<description num="0" language="5">Road</description>
<description num="0" language="9">Road</description>
<description num="0" language="11">Road</description>
<useobject desc="compatible" class="20">ROADTRAM</useobject>
<useobject desc="compatible" class="20">EOWROAD1</useobject> <==== i've added wich road to use
<useobject desc="tunnel" class="13">TUNNEL2 </useobject>
<useobject desc="bridge[0]" class="14">BRDGBRCK</useobject>
<useobject desc="bridge[1]" class="14">BRDGSTAR</useobject>
<useobject desc="bridge[2]" class="14">BRDGGIRD</useobject>
<useobject desc="bridge[3]" class="14">BRDGSUSP</useobject>
<useobject desc="bridge[4]" class="14">BRDGWOOD</useobject>
<useobject desc="station[0]" class="18">RDSTAT1 </useobject>
<useobject desc="station[1]" class="18">RDSTAT2 </useobject>
<useobject desc="station[2]" class="18">RDSTAT3 </useobject>
<useobject desc="station[3]" class="18">BUSSTOP </useobject>
<useobject desc="station[4]" class="18">RDSTATL1</useobject>
<useobject desc="station[5]" class="18">RDSTATL2</useobject>
<useobject desc="station[6]" class="18">RDSTATL3</useobject>

do i have to specify somewhere the location of the file or something?Cause i don't realize what i did wrong

[Illegal_Alien]

So what type of thing are you adding? Throwing a bunch of code wont work (Also try another space after "NLROAD " should be 8 long including spaces. )

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<object class="0x94" subclass="0x118EAF" name="NLROAD  "><chunk compression="1">

Also are the .dat filenames correct etc etc etc.

[nobodyelse]

the filenames are corect i checked it,and i'm trying to add a trolleybus way(the filename, is eowroad.dat) and i keep recieving a message that says that could not find object for compatible[2]. I only get this message when i change this:
<variable name="numcompat" size="1">1</variable>
to this:
<variable name="numcompat" size="1">2</variable>

EDIT: i dont need to add a space cause there are 8 chars already i dont know what i did wrong cause i followed the instruction step by step


EDIT(again): I solved the problem in another way ,I replaced the original road graphics with the new one and replace the x y coordonates(cause i tested the road and it didn't look very good)and this way the trolleyway can be constructed on the road.I would like to thank Illegal_Allien and the rest persons who made this tutorial

[Zakos]

There was another way. When you change one of those num_____ variables to anything above 1, you need to add the numbers after each variable it affects (e.g. compatible for numcompat).