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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by athanasios » 09 Feb 2008 22:50

On the other hand sun is shinning from east so they get more light on their long sides.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by Ben_Robbins_ » 10 Feb 2008 08:53

Justifying it with logic, and/or reality, doesn't always make for nice looking graphics. I have to agree with Jetthe's point. The track bits flow together better in his edit, and with tt's sharp corners in general I think that's key. The track is really nice by the way Zephyris.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by Zephyris » 10 Feb 2008 10:45

Feel free to tweak it, as you may have guessed I am very low on time atm...

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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by DanMacK » 10 Feb 2008 14:38

Haven't had much time myself lately, hopefully that'll change on my days off :P

One question I've got. What are we setting the default start date to? Most trucks and buses aren't available until the 1930's, should this be changed to allow for the earlier start dates in OTTD? I'd assume if another generation of vehicles was added before te current ones it would be part of the "advanced graphics set". I think there are some things that should be included if a graphics set were included with trunk. It wouldn't be compatible with old savegames but would be designed for new ones only.

At least one generation of trucks should be considerably smaller than the current ones, maybe some tweaking on specs and such. Plus the question is how early do we want to go if there's a set included with the game. Do we want horses too?

Some questions for the future. :D

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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by Zephyris » 10 Feb 2008 14:44

I think its time to add a wiki page on advanced/extended graphics features we want to add, i'll get started!

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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by DanMacK » 10 Feb 2008 16:40

Awesome idea :D Can't wait to see it.

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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by DeletedUser5 » 10 Feb 2008 16:49

It's already there. Zephyris created it.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by uzurpator » 10 Feb 2008 17:15

Oh my - pays out to visit the ottd section from time to time...

Ok - I have got a question, do you want to make a direct 1:1 replacement or to enhance it in some ways? Also - are tropic locos claimed?

I ask because, well, I think (being an author mind you) that Tropic Refurbishment Set can be used as a source of loco sprites for the tropic open-gfx, and if required I can add maglevs or revised original locomotive sprites tenders. Would that be a welcome input?
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by Zephyris » 10 Feb 2008 19:37

The basic project is a 1:1 sprite replacement, although there is an assumption that there will be associated grfs to add enhanced features; complete shore line, snow in temperate, narrow gauge, extra locos, etc. in a matching style. Check the tracking table on the OpenTTD wiki for progress (link in first post), DanMacK has already done most of the tropic/arctic locos, but help in coding would be much appreciated! In fact any help would be much appreciated! :D

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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by athanasios » 11 Feb 2008 00:22

DanMacK:
I 'd like to have an earlier set of vehicles like the ones in George's LV4. Need not be exactly TFord for cargo but something similar. 1910 - 1920 would be a good starting point.
Horses? To my opinion yes, but in the advanced grf.

What about triremes as passenger & mail ships for BCE era? :mrgreen:

And a new building for toyland:
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by Roujin » 11 Feb 2008 11:01

I'm not an experienced artist, but I wanted to contribute to this project anyways, so I thought a bit about toyland trees. In my opinion, they could use a little overhaul - maybe change them from these rainbow-colored fancy shapes into more discreet looking, maybe a little bizarre plants.

I made a tree as an example and replaced the second toyland tree in trg1r.grf for testing - this is the outcome.

If you like it you may use it, or tweak it first, modify it, whatever ;)

What do you think of it? Or should the toyland trees stay as colorful as they are?
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by Zephyris » 11 Feb 2008 11:55

I'm glad to see toyland is getting quite a lot of attention!

Re: athanasios
Another nice job - I like the cartoony feel, it matches well with the other buildings you have done too.

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I like it, it keeps the feel of toyland without breaking peoples eyes! I would suggest you alter the colour of the stem slightly so it stands out a little bit more, maybe slightly lighter. I believe the toyland trees use recolouring to add variation which I think we should keep, otherwise toyland trees will be very monotonous. Could you make sure you use the colours from the trees you are replacing for the ring so it gets recoloured?

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Are you still around to do some more coding, ie. code athanasios' building :)

*edit* And a gentle reminder, please update the wiki/tracking table as you make more graphics...

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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by Roujin » 11 Feb 2008 12:25

Zephyris wrote:Re: Roujin
I like it, it keeps the feel of toyland without breaking peoples eyes! I would suggest you alter the colour of the stem slightly so it stands out a little bit more, maybe slightly lighter.
Okay
I believe the toyland trees use recolouring to add variation which I think we should keep, otherwise toyland trees will be very monotonous. Could you make sure you use the colours from the trees you are replacing for the ring so it gets recoloured?
hmm, the other landscapes' trees are varying enough without use of cc-recoloring, aren't they? I thought of actually removing the cc from trees, making them more like trees in the other landscapes (brown stem, green leaves/needles), only bizarre in their shape, not their colors.

What do the others think about this topic?
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by thgergo » 11 Feb 2008 14:18

I have coded DanMacK`s arctic Locos, but i have encountered some problems with it:
The Kelling 3100, and the MJS 1000. Those two Locos have 4 views in original TTD, so if I want to add the other full 8 sprites, ill have to use more than an action A spriteswap... Also, supporting the Turner turbo passanger, and mail overrides needs more than replacing the default sprites. So here is my question, should I make them work with more advanced newgrf coding, or the sprites should be redesigned?
Lastly shall I update the "newVehicles - Rail v0.2" grf with DanMacK`s locos, or make a seperate grf file?
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by Zephyris » 11 Feb 2008 15:55

Very nice work!

For now preferably code both the sprite replacement (actionA) AND "enhanced replacement" (action1, 2 and 3). Add the basic replacement to the newVehicles - Rail GRF, and create a newVehicles enhanced - Rail GRF for the enhanced replacement. This way both the basic replacement and extended features are complete and coded ready for moving to wherever their final graphics replacement newGRFs/GRFs need them.

I'm not quite happy with your \ and _ offsets, it looks like they need to be 1 px higher to me, not sure how it compares to the old graphics though, some of them had very interesting alignments!

*edit* would you mind updating the carriages too? the new graphics should just need pasting over the old ones (except the mail and passenger)...

*edit again* and DanMacK, would you mind tweaking the troublesome graphics to be symmetric, or provide a version which is symmetric, whilst the enhanced replacement can use the asymmetric...

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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by DanMacK » 11 Feb 2008 16:10

Sure. I could probably do up some double-ended things not really resembling prototype :D Leave me to it and I may just do something looking similar to the originals.

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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by Eddie » 11 Feb 2008 17:12

Kudos to you guys. You just never stop.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by DJ Nekkid » 11 Feb 2008 19:18

thgergo wrote:I have coded DanMacK`s arctic Locos, but i have encountered some problems with it:
The Kelling 3100, and the MJS 1000. Those two Locos have 4 views in original TTD, so if I want to add the other full 8 sprites, ill have to use more than an action A spriteswap... Also, supporting the Turner turbo passanger, and mail overrides needs more than replacing the default sprites. So here is my question, should I make them work with more advanced newgrf coding, or the sprites should be redesigned?
Lastly shall I update the "newVehicles - Rail v0.2" grf with DanMacK`s locos, or make a seperate grf file?

If u want, just send me the .nfo (s) and .pcx'es, and ill add them to what i already have made... or i can send u what i have made...
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by buttercup » 11 Feb 2008 20:18

Zephyris wrote:Re: buttercup
Are you still around to do some more coding, ie. code athanasios' building :)
Yep:
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If there are any other small(ish) jobs that need coding, I have quite a lot of free time to do so. It seems like it will mostly be Action A but I am quite happy to have a go at slightly more complicated Actions if need be (I had started DanMacK's trains with Actions 0/1/2/3 for example).

I just don't want it to look like I'm butting in on someone else's project (since it seems like quite a lot of people want to contribute to this one).


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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX

Post by Zephyris » 11 Feb 2008 20:33

Buttercup, if you want a real challenge you can try and code my wip river sprites... I have now idea how the images I have done correspond to the sprites in the grf, it would be a lot of chopping and offsetting!

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