Thanks, it works as before! Can't however wait for the new window...
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This is fixed now.
Buying companies with admin approval is something to look into some day. Buying individual bits of infrastructure probably is probably more trouble than it is worth, but perhaps some time.MLG wrote: ↑05 Jul 2021 11:10This would be good for those friendly or cooperative games.MLG wrote: ↑04 Jul 2021 16:11 And a wish for ability to buy other companies in MP when everybody in that company agrees to sell it, and then merge that companies and players build together. Maybe also ability to buy infrastructure from other player company too, this would be only from a player company to prevent AI crashes.
I still think that this is better suited to pluggable AIs or GSs. There's no technical reason why these cannot be made to properly handle NRT.MLG wrote: ↑05 Jul 2021 11:10Neutral traffic would be nice add-on to public roads... If this would be implemented, road priorities and maybe traffic lights would be good too.MLG wrote: ↑04 Jul 2021 16:11 EDIT to avoid bumping: In addiction to public roads, I got an idea of selecting NewGRFs from active NewGRF list, game would then put their road (tram not) RVs in game as randomly roaming traffic. It would put x (x is user setting) RVs per town, they would use player roads even with infrastructure sharing off, would not use stops and not break down or break down and use company depots to repair for same amount of money as it would be player vehicle, which will companies earn from them. Italics would be a on/off switch. There is an AI for similar thing, however it is broken by NRT...
Traffic lights and other such are in DBPP's branch. In my own testing/opinion these are mostly a novelty and don't actually improve traffic flow or anything useful like that.
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I tend to agree with JGR on the traffic lights.This actually mimics real life in that road authorities will not install traffic lights if the traffic volume does not warrant it. How many games have been played with 1000 vehicles in a town?
Regarding traffic flow, I do have an issue with drive-through road stops where a truck will take an exorbitant detour just to avoid a bus stop and similarly with buses avoiding truck stops.
The only exception is if there is no detour route available. One way roads can help but they are not always possible. Conclusion: we know that, if forced, one vehicle type will drive through another's road stop, so why don't we simply eliminate the restriction? I do realize we can use a "go via" order but it can be a real pain to organize.
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Ok, Just a note, if I have infrastructure sharing on, then traffic AI vehicles will stop at my stops, messing with cargodist... This could be avoided by having those "sharing of road/rail etc. infrastructure" settings separate for each company.
I still have no clue how to make an OTTD AI... Maybe you could make one?
EDIT to avoid bumping: Maybe that AI could be fork of this: viewtopic.php?f=65&t=42393 I know this is old AI, however there is only one newer, actually fork of this AI, and which has not any URL linked in BaNaNaS nor in description...
Just decide if you want to create that AI from zero or if you want to fix an old AI...
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Hello JGR,
Here attached are two crash reports which occured on the same day (today) . I am using the most recent version of the patchpack.
Here attached are two crash reports which occured on the same day (today) . I am using the most recent version of the patchpack.
Nothing to put here!
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I have no plans to make my own GS/AI or NewGRF. There are plenty of others here who can do that.MLG wrote: ↑05 Jul 2021 20:56Ok, Just a note, if I have infrastructure sharing on, then traffic AI vehicles will stop at my stops, messing with cargodist... This could be avoided by having those "sharing of road/rail etc. infrastructure" settings separate for each company.
I still have no clue how to make an OTTD AI... Maybe you could make one?
EDIT to avoid bumping: Maybe that AI could be fork of this: viewtopic.php?f=65&t=42393 I know this is old AI, however there is only one newer, actually fork of this AI, and which has not any URL linked in BaNaNaS nor in description...
Just decide if you want to create that AI from zero or if you want to fix an old AI...
These are from the new train purchase window, these have already been fixed.SomeIndianGuy wrote: ↑06 Jul 2021 13:40 Hello JGR,
Here attached are two crash reports which occured on the same day (today) . I am using the most recent version of the patchpack.
You should set "Separate locomotives and wagons in train purchase window" to off for now.
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Noted.These are from the new train purchase window, these have already been fixed.
You should set "Separate locomotives and wagons in train purchase window" to off for now.
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It doesn't use that road necessarily. Depends on game start. it uses whatever the towns use. If you start in 1900 you tend to get dirt roads instead
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That's simply caused by stations having a penalty for the pathfinder. That's true for trains as well. I don't agree that removing that is a good idea. It makes vehicles treat stops as regular roads and that can cause traffic jams since now ALL vehicles go through there if it's the shortest route. That's like saying it's ok for all vehicles in a city to drive through a big bus stop even if they don'T need to be there. yes technically thse are not big bus hubs but at the side of the road stops but usually in traffic areas in real life the bus can clear the lane on those.. here they cant so there'd be a traffic jam behind them.wallyweb wrote: ↑05 Jul 2021 20:21 Regarding traffic flow, I do have an issue with drive-through road stops where a truck will take an exorbitant detour just to avoid a bus stop and similarly with buses avoiding truck stops.
The only exception is if there is no detour route available. One way roads can help but they are not always possible. Conclusion: we know that, if forced, one vehicle type will drive through another's road stop, so why don't we simply eliminate the restriction? I do realize we can use a "go via" order but it can be a real pain to organize.
Busses avoid bus stops that are not on their route too btw, that has nothing to do with it being a bus stop. ALL station tiles get a pathfinder penalty. And I think that should remain this way. In certain cases it might be annoying but in the general case it's the better behavior to avoid traffic issues.
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You just gave me an idea.
Leave the road as is and build the stop beside the road as a turn out.
Thank you.
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Is there something wrong with paying for cargo? I don't make money on things they used to make, I'll research further. It's similar to what I reported earlier when loading games from the Joker patchpack.
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Hi JGR,
is it intented, that with U&RaTT those public roads have a 50kmph / cca. 30 mph speed limit. I know that they are what-towns-build roadtype, but isn't there a way to go around that? I also support fact, that player's task is to upgrade them, however this is too slow.
Thanks!
is it intented, that with U&RaTT those public roads have a 50kmph / cca. 30 mph speed limit. I know that they are what-towns-build roadtype, but isn't there a way to go around that? I also support fact, that player's task is to upgrade them, however this is too slow.
Thanks!
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Hello
Tschö, Auge
If the NRT-set provides a specific road that towns are able to build at the specific time and this road type has a speed limit of 30 kph or 50 kph, that's it. I argued also to allow to build the fastest possible road (even it's not a road buildable by towns) but it seems to me that the road network will be build by the towns itself and those can only build roads that they allowed to build. So they can only build (mostly slow) town roads.
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I've found a problem: in arctic climate no trees spawn in snow areas regardless of tree placer algorithm; also choosing "Perfect" algorithm prevents the player from placing trees in snow areas manually.
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That's the artic tree line. That's not a bug. Above a certain height there will be no tree growth as in real life there's no trees on moutain tops. If you want a more gradual treeline instead of a sudden stop you need to activate the tree line range in Environment settings.
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Huh, weird. Apparently my "Arctic tree range" setting went from deafult 8 to 1 without me ever touching it. Also, there is still an inconsistency, where I can manually place trees anywhere, unless I'm on "Perfect" algorithm. It makes little sense, that world generation setting also effects what the player can do.Lt_Joker wrote: ↑09 Jul 2021 06:18 That's the artic tree line. That's not a bug. Above a certain height there will be no tree growth as in real life there's no trees on moutain tops. If you want a more gradual treeline instead of a sudden stop you need to activate the tree line range in Environment settings.
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I actually added that in the pull request for that new algorithm because I thought it made very little sense that the world generation algorithm clearly says there are no trees growing on mountain tops, AND the tree algorithm prevents them from naturally growing there, but the player is allowed to plant them there. Doesn't that seem like the bigger inconsistency? I mean I doubt it would work if you tried to plant trees on the top of a mountain in the alps ... just doesn't make sense. If plants don't grow there naturally then you also cannot plant them there. they'll die. It's frozen rock after all. Makes no sense for the player to take a tool and plant a forest on the top of a mountain while the game is prevented from spreading trees there.
Either they can grow there or not. If anything I consider that an inconsistency in the old algorithms, but I didn't want to touch those.
Either they can grow there or not. If anything I consider that an inconsistency in the old algorithms, but I didn't want to touch those.
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I just made a game with ''Extremely many'' rivers and this wierd genration happened:
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What exactly is weird about it? Looks pretty standard to mejustaplayer wrote: ↑11 Jul 2021 23:19 I just made a game with ''Extremely many'' rivers and this wierd genration happened:
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