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Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 10:58
by Slye_Fox
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Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 12:10
by cardinal808
Stylpe wrote:
cardinal808 wrote:I've tried it yesterday, but it gives an error. "no available language packs (invalid versions?). I Used an R4... no clue what to do.
It's because of a small oversight dominik81 made. He uses /gamedata/openttd on his card, and has his .cfg edited for that, and he forgot to edit it back before releasing it. He reuploaded it with this fix so you can now put the openttd-folder on the root of your card like the readme says.
Youre correct, the game is working properly now. Looks great..... :D

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 12:59
by AntBUK
I like the graphics Slye. :)

RVs appear to be fine provided I don't turn YAPF on, can't really play with aircraft and I'll have a play with boats shortly :) (delivering what to where I don't know)

Edit: Won't even build a dock :( just returns misc>cursor 0x0 (0)

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 13:06
by Slye_Fox
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Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 13:14
by Roujin
Slye_Fox wrote:Gerneric Text Entry Menu
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backspace?

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 13:22
by Slye_Fox
Oh right, forgot about that.
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Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 14:02
by elf_sander
Slye_Fox wrote:Main Menu
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I think a "Quit" option wouldn't be needed. Also, I don't see how multiplayer is going to work.. And converting heightmaps might be too much for the DS as well.. I think.. And it might be smarter to keep a qwerty layout for the OSK ;)

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 14:25
by Slye_Fox
No idea what OSk or Qwerty is.

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 14:29
by skabaas
Slye_Fox wrote:No idea what OSk or Qwerty is.

QWERTY... Like your keyboard... :roll:

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 14:31
by skabaas
Slye_Fox wrote:Main Menu
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Didn't even get the Main Menu when I started it on my DS-Xtreme, I jumped right in the middle of a game... Something wrong?

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 14:33
by dominik81
Thanks for the effort, Slye_Fox. I appreciate it. It might be some time until I get to changing the GUI, there is too much else to sort out first.

For the menu toolbars I was thinking about splitting it in two parts. One being used most of the time (to build stuff, etc.) and the other one to check statistics. You could switch toolbars with an additional button.
Slye_Fox wrote:I'm working on a few menus.
Should they be orginal sized, but condenced to fit on screen.
Or use the smaller icons like the tool bar?
I'm not sure yet. The space is so limited on the tiny screen that I wish there wouldn't be too many menus at the same time. Maybe those toolbars could be vertical on the left side of the screen. Or they could replace the main toolbar and you would have a "return" button to get back to the main toolbar.
AntBUK wrote:Edit: Won't even build a dock :( just returns misc>cursor 0x0 (0)
That's strange, I don't have problems building docks. Are you sure you clicked on a valid tile?
elf_sander wrote: I think a "Quit" option wouldn't be needed. Also, I don't see how multiplayer is going to work.. And converting heightmaps might be too much for the DS as well.. I think.. And it might be smarter to keep a qwerty layout for the OSK ;)
I hope to get multiplayer to work at some point in the far future. Even playing with players on the PC could be possible in theory. But as I said: It'll be a long time until that happens. It's true that a "quit game" button is not strictly needed on the DS though.
skabaas wrote:Didn't even get the Main Menu when I started it on my DS-Xtreme, I jumped right in the middle of a game... Something wrong?
No, that's intended in my test version. Much quicker to test stuff then having to click through menus first. You can get back to the menu with "quit game" though.

PS: I personally don't like qwerty. On my PC I have Neostyle layout.

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 14:35
by Slye_Fox
If you goto Exit Game from the save menu, you goto the main menu.

It's too big for the DS screens, so they have to be remade.


Difficulty menu (done over both screens)

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 14:50
by Bilbo
Perhaps the "at end of line, and at stations" could be made shorter ...

"At end of line and stations" perhaps?

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 17:03
by elf_sander
dominik81 wrote:
skabaas wrote:Didn't even get the Main Menu when I started it on my DS-Xtreme, I jumped right in the middle of a game... Something wrong?
No, that's intended in my test version. Much quicker to test stuff then having to click through menus first. You can get back to the menu with "quit game" though.
Quit Game doesn't always work (1/6 attemps actually work) most of the time I get the next error with a freeze:
Free 68k Largest 48K
[Err:] Out of memory. Cannot allocate 65536 bytes assertion "0" failed: file "/media/hdbd1/dev/ndsdev/openttd/src/os/ds/arm9/../../../../src/openttd.cpp" line 111
PS: I personally don't like qwerty. On my PC I have Neostyle layout.
What kind of layout is that? Can you show me an example?

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 18:47
by T-Unit
OSK = on screen keyboard
QWERTY name given to a normal keyboard after the order of the first six letters from the top left on a keyboard.

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 19:20
by weaselboy246
very nice port! after getting the road vehicles "fixed", I started linking all the industries on the 64x64. worked quite well. only problem I found was randomly the road between vehicles would flash dirt. like it was just built. also the AI gets really stupid with trains as they will only spin around in the station which the AI then decides to build 3 new train stations because of it.

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 21:33
by Stylpe
weaselboy246 wrote:also the AI gets really stupid with trains as they will only spin around in the station which the AI then decides to build 3 new train stations because of it.
I was surprised when I discovered the AI even works! I was fiddling around making a small bus route in the town, and when I scrolled back to the industries there was railroad all over the place!

I've tried building a rail route too, and see the same behaviour with the trains just going back and forth on hte loading station, so that's not related to the AI. It happens if I put orders on the train and use Full Load and Unload. It gets stuck on the Full Load order, and it doesn't work to just skip it. I tried having no orders as well, and the train will leave the station, but the station wouldn't start accepting goods. Buses work fine, though, have a savegame to show it too =) But when I try loading it on the DS, it crashes with the following error (and relevant previous log):

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1899 sl> Loading savegame version 84
189A misc> Free 544K Largest 560K
189B map> Allocationg map of size 256x256 (note: I thought largest size was 128x256)?
189C nds> Tile: 8 TileExtended: 1
189D misc> Free 68K Largest 48K
[Err:] Out of memory. Cannot allocate 65536 bytes
assertion "0" failed: file "/media/hdb1/dev/ndsdev/openttd/src/os/ds/arm9/../../..(sec/openttd.cpp" line 111
Gonna try trucks next.

Note to anyone still wondering: You have to turn off YAPF to be able to run any sort of transport.

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 22:20
by weaselboy246
On another note. if you make a save on the PC version and load it on DS and a town happens to have 0 population (why it shows like that i'll never know lol) the game will crash

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 22:24
by Bilbo
weaselboy246 wrote:On another note. if you make a save on the PC version and load it on DS and a town happens to have 0 population (why it shows like that i'll never know lol) the game will crash
Town which have all its houses razed to ground happen to have 0 population. While it is not easy to do (local authority tries to block you from excessive bulldozing), it is possible with a bit of effort :)

Re: Nintendo DS port

Posted: 16 Jan 2008 22:37
by weaselboy246
Bilbo wrote:
weaselboy246 wrote:On another note. if you make a save on the PC version and load it on DS and a town happens to have 0 population (why it shows like that i'll never know lol) the game will crash
Town which have all its houses razed to ground happen to have 0 population. While it is not easy to do (local authority tries to block you from excessive bulldozing), it is possible with a bit of effort :)
I mean naturally lol. when it would try to update to it's real population it would crash