Planning, Project cost, audit before final construction

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Planning, Project cost, audit before final construction

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Hi! First - sorry for bad english. Try to explane idea.
Real organization before start construct big project - make some research, project cost. Some times this task performed by contractors. Main purpose of this preparation - know PRICE of project, estimate risks and anticipate profits.

I know in game SHIFT+build show cost only for one section. But..

It's real to implement this step in game? Example: in constraction menu add some switch "Planning". While this mode enabled - player see summary project cost and what actions will be performed after start build (in non-planning mode), but nothing builds, nothing destroed.

PS: One topic for one idea? Have some other suggestions.

EDIT_1: After use this mode player pays some money (in game coins) - like in real life for project research\audit.
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There are already NewGRF's with planning tracks in them, that could be used a bit for what you want.

For the rest, I think this will provide more problems than added gameplay-value and code maintainability for developers. I foresee all kinds of problems with making the planning definitive. What if something already has been built on a spot I planned something? What if I destroy something that cannot be destroyed because there is a vehicle on that tile?
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Transportman wrote:I foresee all kinds of problems with making the planning definitive. What if something already has been built on a spot I planned something? What if I destroy something that cannot be destroyed because there is a vehicle on that tile?
i think all of those problems are solvable, they just need someone working on it.

it could be a really good feature if done properly.
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Implementing real-life scenes, with project planning would be great.
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It would be a different game.
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Transportman wrote: For the rest, I think this will provide more problems than added gameplay-value and code maintainability for developers. I foresee all kinds of problems with making the planning definitive. What if something already has been built on a spot I planned something? What if I destroy something that cannot be destroyed because there is a vehicle on that tile?
Important point - player CAN'T build project objects just clicking on one button. After exit from project mode player got just summary cost of project (maybe with additional statistics). And i think in this mode timeline of game must be counting, not accessable in pause like usual in-game constructions
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GOID wrote:
Transportman wrote: For the rest, I think this will provide more problems than added gameplay-value and code maintainability for developers. I foresee all kinds of problems with making the planning definitive. What if something already has been built on a spot I planned something? What if I destroy something that cannot be destroyed because there is a vehicle on that tile?
Important point - player CAN'T build project objects just clicking on one button. After exit from project mode player got just summary cost of project (maybe with additional statistics). And i think in this mode timeline of game must be counting, not accessable in pause like usual in-game constructions
So once they exit the mode, everything is erased and just some cost is returned and to get the real work done, they basically have to do all steps again? I think that is a bit useless, especially in OpenTTD where money is often not that tight after the initial startup.
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Possibly a planning mode could be good, where you take a series of actions to check alignments/sizes of stuff etc.
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