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long time loading - suddenly

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hi all

I have very strange issue happening, suddenly loading time on some of the station (passengers and mail) have increased very very much. For sure it is not a case of length of the train, I have 7 tiles station and train is 3 tiles long, passengers and mail are waiting, but train loading 1% by ... month!

no idea... how to fix it?

what's more - it started suddenly, was ok before....
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Re: long time loading - suddenly

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Maybe you have updated some newGRF, and its author/s changed the load parameters in this one. Check it out.

If that's not the case, you'd better upload your saved game here. Someone will be able to help you more with all that data.
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Re: long time loading - suddenly

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Are you using a NewGRF vehicle set ? Did you replace vehicles ?
Please note that a lot of trains load slower compared to others, even in the base set.
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Re: long time loading - suddenly

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I'm using PKPPolish set and scenario Poland. Attached my save. Please check station (P) Szczecin.... somethng very weird, there are trains that is loading very slow - coming from station Kołobrzeg, while others, with SAME set of wagons - but coming from different station (Gdańsk) - those loading fast.

next one is station Wałbrzych, and (P) Wrocław Stare Miasto.

thanks for helping...
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Re: long time loading - suddenly

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Hmmm, on one?
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Re: long time loading - suddenly

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szwagropol wrote:Hmmm, on one?
Take it easy, it takes a while before people are home and have done all the daily things before having time to look into your game :)

Anyway, it looks like a cargodist thing:
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This is the case we're talking about right?

As you can see in the station window, there is no mail for the destination of train 99, so it doesn't load anything. Anything that appears here for the destination is immediately loaded into the train, so you'll only see progress by an increasing amount of mail in the train.

If you open the settings window, you will notice that mail is "symmetric". This means that a) cargodist is controlling mail destinations, and b) the amount of mail in one direction will be mostly equal to the amount of mail in the opposite direction.
Now since Kołobrzeg is very very small, it generates very little mail, so cargodist will also send very little mail in the opposite direction, which means most mail in Szczecin will not go to Kołobrzeg.

Some things you can do
- Your train is too large for the amount of transported mail. Make the train shorter, or let it also visit other destinations (so that mail for the other destinations will hop on board as well).
- Drop the "symmetric" mode, and switch to "asymmetric". Then mail in one direction and mail in the other direction are independent, over the entire map, so big shifts in mail transport may happen.
- Drop cargodist delivery by switching to "manual". Then you are in full control, and mail will hop onto the first train, instead of being routed by the program.
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Re: long time loading - suddenly

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oh man! thanks a lot. it explains a lot. never though there is something like this "symmetric"! hehe. wondering what else I will find ;-)
for now I will change to "asymmetric", but then I will start again knowing that rule.

again - thanks Alberth! topic closed.

ps. this game will never stop surprising me... since so many years while I'm back to it again and again :-D sorry for being impatient but it was worried me whole day, I spend a lot of time developing this scenario...
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