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Towns not growing?

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I have two towns, one of 4.8k ppl and the other has 5.8k.

I connected them through a huge airport and made train station attached to the airport, so definitelly there's a lot on going there, I exchange between this 2 towns passengers, mail and valuables.

I also sending to each town goods from a nearby refinery.

Still towns not growing.

Before posting I already readed the wiki about towns. Assuming I'm not doing anything wrong since I'm exchanging multiple cargo types and also sending goods to this towns then they should grow. Been already.... more than 5 years for sure of this exchanges and never growed up.

What should I do?
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On temperate all you need for town to grow is having some active station (5 stations for max growth speed). It doesn't matter what you transport, how much or where.
Trick is though, for station to count its sign has to be within town zone and there is no way to see exact zone without patched game build like citymania one. As far as I can tell your stations or rather their signs are too far from town center.

Alternatively you can fund buildings in local authority actions, that will make it grow for 2-3 months.

P.S. Wiki has loads of gibberish on town growth.
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_dp_ wrote:On temperate all you need for town to grow is having some active station (5 stations for max growth speed). It doesn't matter what you transport, how much or where.
Trick is though, for station to count its sign has to be within town zone and there is no way to see exact zone without patched game build like citymania one. As far as I can tell your stations or rather their signs are too far from town center.

Alternatively you can fund buildings in local authority actions, that will make it grow for 2-3 months.

P.S. Wiki has loads of gibberish on town growth.

Weird, I just added 1 more source of goods from wood factory nearby of each city and they started to grow both every 19 days.

At least now they grow and I'll be able to carry more passengers \o/

EDIT : NOT growing again. I don't understand anything anymore :<
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There is also a random 1/12 chance that town on temperate will grow by itself. So mb you got lucky. Anyway, ignore things that don't matter and check what I told you about: number of active stations in town zone, I bet you have none.

Or just build smth like this and it will start growing in a month or two:
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Also, never build on the tile where the city name itself is hovered above. This used to (and may still) ruin the city growth.
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Do you have any gamescript loaded?
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Could you upload your save mayhap? From what I can see on the screenshot, unless you have some sort of city growth gamescript enabled, the towns ought to be growing.
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Can you post a screen cap of your plane and train vehicle orders?
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Hey guys sorry for late, didn't re-check, answering your questions, I only use UniversalRailType 2.0.1 GRF modification, the rest is the original game itself, no scripts no nothing.

Train orders are like go this station and go to the next station, that's it, there is no load/unload. Maybe its because of that? Will try to setup a train with full load/unload and see what happens.

EDIT : I Setup the mail train to load/unload, will see if town starts to grow, but anyway, plains do come from the near wood factory and those do have load/unload orders.
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_dp_ wrote:There is also a random 1/12 chance that town on temperate will grow by itself. So mb you got lucky. Anyway, ignore things that don't matter and check what I told you about: number of active stations in town zone, I bet you have none.

Or just build smth like this and it will start growing in a month or two:
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How can I check active?, I got 2 stations now on each town, so the main station is to transfer between both towns passengers, valuables and mail. The secondary station just receives the goods from the wood factory nearby.

Now one of the towns is growing permanently while the other doesn't. I don't know anything anymore, I'm so confused.
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cybdan wrote:
_dp_ wrote:There is also a random 1/12 chance that town on temperate will grow by itself. So mb you got lucky. Anyway, ignore things that don't matter and check what I told you about: number of active stations in town zone, I bet you have none.
How can I check active?, I got 2 stations now on each town, so the main station is to transfer between both towns passengers, valuables and mail. The secondary station just receives the goods from the wood factory nearby.

Now one of the towns is growing permanently while the other doesn't. I don't know anything anymore, I'm so confused.
Here: http://imgur.com/a/lkQzY
Both airports are clearly outside towns. Carnley truck station is inside but it isn't active. That's why nothing is growing.
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_dp_ wrote:
cybdan wrote:
_dp_ wrote:There is also a random 1/12 chance that town on temperate will grow by itself. So mb you got lucky. Anyway, ignore things that don't matter and check what I told you about: number of active stations in town zone, I bet you have none.
How can I check active?, I got 2 stations now on each town, so the main station is to transfer between both towns passengers, valuables and mail. The secondary station just receives the goods from the wood factory nearby.

Now one of the towns is growing permanently while the other doesn't. I don't know anything anymore, I'm so confused.
Here: http://imgur.com/a/lkQzY
Both airports are clearly outside towns. Carnley truck station is inside but it isn't active. That's why nothing is growing.
Well, I did place two different stations closer to the city center and sent goods there, now both growing at decent rate.

Thanks for the clarification, didn't know for growth stations should be around an invisible area that can only be revealed by game modifications after all this time playing TTD, LOL.

Will have it in mind for future games :)
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