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15:31 <kero> mmh, nml wants PIL, but on my system there already is Python-Pillow (a fork), both are in conflict. Would nml use pillow ?
15:33 <@Alberth> kero: yes
15:34 <kero> Alberth : thanks
15:34 <@Alberth> Pillow is supposed to be a drop-in for PIL
15:38 <kero> mmh and nml wants setuptools, but the setuptools in Arch repositories doesnt support python 3 ...
15:38 <kero> Ok, this is becoming boring. I'll try another time.
15:39 <@Alberth> kero: nml is Pythno2
15:39 <kero> python setup.py install
15:39 <kero> WARNING: Sorry, python 3.0 or later is not yet supported. Some parts may not work.
15:39 <@Alberth> and it will run without actual install
15:40 <kero> mmh. All of this is quite cryptic
15:41 <Taede> try python2 setup.py install?
15:41 <Taede> so that itll use python 2.x provided its installed
15:42 <kero> python 2 is installed, as is python 3
15:43 <kero> Taede : i have still the same error : "ImportError: No module named setuptools"
15:45 <andythenorth> urgh
15:45 <andythenorth> setuptools
15:45 <@Alberth> just run it uninstalled
15:46 <kero> Alberth : ok, I'll try.
15:46 <kero> Anyway, I dont like installing as root not repositories-material
15:46 <andythenorth> one day I'll write down a bomb-proof way to get nml
15:46 <andythenorth> kero: same here
15:46 <Supercheese> My first time trying to install nml dependencies was a disaster too
15:46 <andythenorth> it's a cluster f***
15:46 <kero> lo
15:46 <Supercheese> I eventually got it working
15:46 <kero> +l
15:46 <@Alberth> kero I have a soft-link from my ~/bin to the nml main program
15:47 <andythenorth> most python packaging is a cluster f***
15:47 <kero> ok, now let's go for chameleon/markdown (? :/)
15:47 <andythenorth> once setuptools is fixed / replaced (which is happening) life gets better
15:47 <@planetmaker> apt-get install python-markdown
15:47 <@planetmaker> apt-get install python-chameleon
15:47 <@planetmaker> in my case
15:47 <@Alberth> oh, firs source code
15:47 <andythenorth> everyone has their own methods
15:48 <kero> Alberth : what is it the main ? just nmlc ?
15:48 <Supercheese> smells like linux
15:48 <kero> oh yes. nml compiler
15:48 <@planetmaker> yes. just nmlc in binary path suffices
15:48 <kero> planetmaker : i have mardown but not chameleon on Arch
15:48 <andythenorth> I don't want to throw in confusing advice, but I now do zero python without a virtualenv. ymmv. just saying
15:50 <kero> mmh for markdown: do I need the python implementation ?
15:50 <kero> community/python2-markdown 2.3.1-2
15:50 <@planetmaker> ^ sounds about right
15:50 <kero> let's go
15:51 <@planetmaker> and indeed. I'd welcome an addition which allows an easy install of nmlc
15:51 <@planetmaker> current procedure is rather painful
15:53 <@Alberth> more immediate problem might be dropping of python2
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