really newbie question

[Chinbobble]

hey all, new to this game tonight... i know.. staying in on a sat night, but who isnt skint after xmas i remember playing the orginal TT, but having seen some of the stuff you guys are posting on here, im amazed at your skills! So i apologise if this question is really newby, but its killing me at the moment!

Basically i'm trying to figure out signals, junctions etc... and i'm getting there, but I can't get my trains to stop at a 'stop signal' for longer than x amount of time (default i presume), before they give up waiting and turn around. I then spend the next hour trying to get the train, plus all the other trains that get jammed up, back onto the right tracks lol. Not an efficient learning environment i can assure you I read somewhere that there is an option to force your trains to stay at a stop signal until the signal turns green, but for the life of me I cant figure out where this option is.

Any advise will be warmly greeted, thanx all

- Chinbobble

[Chrill]

This should do it, assuming you play OpenTTD

My documents > OpenTTD > Open "openttd.cfg" in NotePad > scroll down to [pf] > change value of "wait_oneway_signal", "wait_twoway_signal" and "wait_for_pbs_path" (I believe 0 is infinite).

This means they'll never turn around on one way signals, never on two way signals and never at PBS signals (it could be another value than 0. If so, I apologise)

[Chinbobble]

after changing those values to 0, my trains stop at signals for precisely zero seconds hehe. Guess zero isn't infinite, I'll try changing those value to a really large obscure number. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction

[Chrill]

Try 255 then

[Chinbobble]

I just tried 999, worked a charm.... ish... it kinda messed up the pathfinding routine to be honest, if a signal is red when a train leaves the depot it'll keep trying to find another route rather than heading towards the stop signal. 999 works if you have a single line (i.e. for heading into a drop off point, or picking up from a station where you have ordered all the trains to wait until full load) but if a train has more than one route to choose it'll mess up the routine.

Saying that though, this is preferable to figuring out where the hell my train with 300 coal has bugg**ed off to , ty chrill

[Benny]

999 is not a valid value.

255 means infinite.

[Chinbobble]

o lol, i though Chrill had just picked a random obscure number hehe, thank you, I'll change the value to 255 now and stop banging my head against the wall

- Chinbobble

[Yexo]

o lol, i though Chrill had just picked a random obscure number hehe, thank you, I'll change the value to 255 now and stop banging my head against the wall

- Chinbobble

Maximum value of an unsigned 8bit variable is 255, so it's not random. When OpenTTD loads the config file all values are checked and I think that invalid values are clamped to the correct range, so even if you enter 999 it'll assume 255. I'm not 100% sure on this, it might take the default instead.

[Chinbobble]

no you are correct, the config reassigned 999 to 255, and also 0 to 2

[FHS]

and also 0 to 2

That statement is wrong, a 8-bit variable can also contain 0 if none of the bits are 1.

[Rubidium]

and also 0 to 2

That statement is wrong, a 8-bit variable can also contain 0 if none of the bits are 1.

A 8 bit variable might contain 0, but in this case the 0 being turned into a 2 is correct.