Amateur or Retro
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Amateur or Retro
When I play Locomotion, I tend to build just like the CPU's, just at a faster pace. Am I playing like an amateur or retro gamer?
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Re: Amateur or Retro
I think like an amateur...The AI from the computergame acts like a complete retard and that's why I never play games with that dumb AI (no offense to you AustinMario )
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Re: Amateur or Retro
The reason I do that is because using more than two rails for one transport looks weird and overpowered. Is there a mod that makes the AI harder or is that too hard-coded?Emperor Darth Sidious wrote:I think like an amateur...The AI from the computergame acts like a complete retard and that's why I never play games with that dumb AI (no offense to you AustinMario )
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I don't know if you can make AI harder, but I do know some one made new AI persons like Obama and Merkel...You can find them here:
http://www.wisim-welt.de/filebase/index ... ocoFanZug/
http://www.wisim-welt.de/filebase/index ... ocoFanZug/
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Re: Amateur or Retro
I wouldn't quite say you're an amateur. I used to make single-track layouts, supporting only one train going back and forth.
However, there's a lot of room for improvement. If you're looking to make two-way layouts, the best you can possibly do is a RoRo layout with double stations. Otherwise, you're going to want to use the same track for multiple lines. It may seem counterproductive, but if you have massive trains then it's easy to maintain because there aren't many trains moving at any given time; they're all loading up.
However, there's a lot of room for improvement. If you're looking to make two-way layouts, the best you can possibly do is a RoRo layout with double stations. Otherwise, you're going to want to use the same track for multiple lines. It may seem counterproductive, but if you have massive trains then it's easy to maintain because there aren't many trains moving at any given time; they're all loading up.
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Re: Amateur or Retro
The AI is a complete waste of time, it does what you can't and expects you to work around it when that happens, sorry I prefer to make my landscapes harder and to raise the level of the game to match making it harder to make money.Emperor Darth Sidious wrote:I think like an amateur...The AI from the computergame acts like a complete retard and that's why I never play games with that dumb AI (no offense to you AustinMario )
In every scenario I have ever created, I have turned the AI off and played against myself by continually updating my tracks, signalling and infrastructure. I attempt to play like it is truly my railroad and it's a process of improvement to create longer stations, better turnouts and longer passing points, the aim is to start small and run longer and heavier trains just like you would if you owned the property
Scenario's Done are
Broken Hills at the Rivers Mouth http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=49627, Sinn River http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=49626, Flat Lands http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=37704, Mountain High River Deep http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=37412, River Valley and Rock http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=37135, First Attempt http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=34097 Cwm Valley http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... cwm+valley
Broken Hills at the Rivers Mouth http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=49627, Sinn River http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=49626, Flat Lands http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=37704, Mountain High River Deep http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=37412, River Valley and Rock http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=37135, First Attempt http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=34097 Cwm Valley http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... cwm+valley
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Re: Amateur or Retro
That's the spirit Utrack !
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Re: Amateur or Retro
Austinmario13, i dont think u play like an amateur. Everyone has a different play style. The ai is good at making trains (kinda). I just dont see the point of a central network. It is costly and complicated and in most cases, isolated single and double track routes, are easy cheap and lucrative, even more than a central network. In many competative scenarios, i use the ai style and i can get to 70% in 10 years and 90% in a few more.
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Re: Amateur or Retro
This guy gets ituktrackbuilder_loco wrote:The AI is a complete waste of time, it does what you can't and expects you to work around it when that happens, sorry I prefer to make my landscapes harder and to raise the level of the game to match making it harder to make money.Emperor Darth Sidious wrote:I think like an amateur...The AI from the computergame acts like a complete retard and that's why I never play games with that dumb AI (no offense to you AustinMario )
In every scenario I have ever created, I have turned the AI off and played against myself by continually updating my tracks, signalling and infrastructure. I attempt to play like it is truly my railroad and it's a process of improvement to create longer stations, better turnouts and longer passing points, the aim is to start small and run longer and heavier trains just like you would if you owned the property
I like to build to a realistic standard, I look at my scenario as if it were a model railroad with a prototype, and I detail it as such.
But the good thing about Locomotion is that there is more than one method to play it.
Re: Amateur or Retro
Like any other simulation game, really
I like to build as realistically as possible when mods are involved, building a few wide stretches of track and routing many of them through it.
I like to build as realistically as possible when mods are involved, building a few wide stretches of track and routing many of them through it.
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