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Really early versions of TTO

Posted: 21 Oct 2003 21:38
by Roman
Does anybody have a really very early version of TTO ? Trial or full game. I mean before 1.03.107. I have just found a trial version on an old pc magazine's cd-rom, which distinguishes quite a lot from the final version of TTO, even the graphics do! Now I'm wondering whether there's even an older one around.

Posted: 21 Oct 2003 21:43
by Bart
I've been searching for it as well, just to check out the overflow error tunnel cheat :) Works in the earliest demo though.

http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=3407

Check this download thread for the earliest TTO I know off...

Posted: 21 Oct 2003 23:19
by lynsey
Can you find out what version they are without actually playing it? If they were sold as different versions I would take a guess mine is one of the earlier versions judging by the price they charged me for it, I had a demo to go with it, they are both at home where I am not for a while, but if they're worth looking out I will.

Posted: 21 Oct 2003 23:47
by Grunt
Bart wrote:...just to check out the overflow error tunnel cheat...
Tunnel overflow cheat, eh? Well, I may not have a version earlier than 1.03.107, but the version I do have (1.06.011 last I checked) does. Gimme a shout if you want to see that in action. :P

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 10:27
by Roman
That would be very nice, lynsey. I'm looking forward to it!
I can't think of any way to find out the version without playing it though...

The TTOs listed at http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=3407 are version 1.06.011. And the first link is dead...

Re: Really early versions of TTO

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 10:29
by orudge
Lord wrote:Does anybody have a really very early version of TTO ? Trial or full game. I mean before 1.03.107. I have just found a trial version on an old pc magazine's cd-rom, which distinguishes quite a lot from the final version of TTO, even the graphics do! Now I'm wondering whether there's even an older one around.
Can you e-mail that to me please, or attach it here since it's just a demo?

Re: Really early versions of TTO

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 13:26
by top_cat19
orudge wrote:
Lord wrote:Does anybody have a really very early version of TTO ? Trial or full game. I mean before 1.03.107. I have just found a trial version on an old pc magazine's cd-rom, which distinguishes quite a lot from the final version of TTO, even the graphics do! Now I'm wondering whether there's even an older one around.
Can you e-mail that to me please, or attach it here since it's just a demo?
I'd quite like to play that on my DOS emulator, sounds cool.
TTO is quite slow though, but i don't care :lol:

Sure, folks.

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 15:31
by Roman
Here you go:

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 15:35
by top_cat19
Nice, that is one cool version. Ill download it in a min on my emulator

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 16:25
by Roman
Before I forget it: Here are some screenshots. Enjoy! :D

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 16:26
by Roman
Another one.

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 16:27
by top_cat19
WHOA! Those are nice screenshots!

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 18:23
by lynsey
I'll try and remember then, it's small enough I can just upload it somewhere or other and you can let me know if it's any good.

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 20:37
by orudge
Differences I've noticed:

- It freezes a lot. Or maybe that's just Virtual PC. I can't be bothered to reboot into Windows 98 right now as it's so unstable right now (well, most of the time actually).

- You can't enlarge the map window

- You can't skip the intro screens

- There's a separate "Sell Vehicle" button in the vehicle windows

Once I restart the game, I'll see if I can find more differences. (It seemed to freeze when I paused it).

More differences:

- There are no banks or oil wells. There are oil rigs, though.

- You can't drag to place rail.

Oh, beep this. I'm going to make a bootable floppy and stick it in my laptop. One moment...

Back again:

- You can't navigate the map with the arrow keys

- The Jinty-class (Steam) is called the 'Drummond M7' and looks different.

- The Valuable van is called the "Bullion Van" and carries "20 tonnes of bullion". Maybe I'm thick, but what's bullion?

Hmmm, unfortunately, I can't get into the road vehicle, ship or aircraft "new vehicles" page, because it's a demo. Hmmm...

Edit #4 or so: the road vehicles don't appear to have 'brand names': well, the AI's grain trucks are just called "Grain Truck".

Edit #5:

- The airport hangar for small airports looks like the one for large airports
- The first plane is called "Old Plane", and carries 40 passengers instead of 25

Edit #6:

- Monorail does appear to exist. I don't know what the monorail loco is called though: the X2001 doesn't exist (or isn't called that, at any rate)

Edit #8 (#7 was to update something else):

- Saved games are saved with a .SAV extension, and have a different checksum to that of 'normal' TTO games

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 22:15
by Prof. Frink
orudge wrote:- The Valuable van is called the "Bullion Van" and carries "20 tonnes of bullion". Maybe I'm thick, but what's bullion?
Gold!

Posted: 22 Oct 2003 22:48
by Lilman424
Gold bars, to be exact.

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Posted: 23 Oct 2003 02:07
by Flavius
Gold or silver in bars or ingots. :idea:

Posted: 23 Oct 2003 06:27
by WildStrings
Monorail does appear to exist. I don't know what the monorail loco is called though: the X2001 doesn't exist (or isn't called that, at any rate)
No, it does NOT appear to exist ;) There is, however, the "Build monorail" string, but graphics are missing from the .GRF both for the monorail locomotive and the tracks.

Posted: 23 Oct 2003 10:33
by lynsey
Are you sure there's no monorail in it? I seem to remember it but maybe I'm getting muddled with TTD seeing as it has to be the best part of 10 years since I played TTO.

Posted: 23 Oct 2003 11:02
by orudge
There's monorail in TTO, but not in this early TTO demo.