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The Luck Of The Irish?

Posted: 11 Sep 2020 16:09
by CTarana45
I set up rail line between my Bank and a Gold Mine! Tracks, Stations and Depots! As soon as I finish the orders, the Mine Vanishes into thin air! :D I know it's not a Bug!

Thanks, Guys!

Christopher Tarana

Re: The Luck Of The Irish?

Posted: 11 Sep 2020 18:42
by odisseus
You're right, it's not a bug. Industries that aren't serviced may disappear with time. However, there are several things you can do to mitigate the damage:
  • Extend the existing infrastructure to serve other industries;
  • Use cheats to replenish your money supply;
  • Avoid primary industries that have very low level of production, especially when you have just started playing.

Re: The Luck Of The Irish?

Posted: 11 Sep 2020 20:45
by audigex
That does give me a thought for a feature request, though - a "months until closure" type of countdown

I know you can estimate it based on the production level, but that's not very intuitive to newbies... it would be nice if the game did it automatically

Re: The Luck Of The Irish?

Posted: 11 Sep 2020 20:56
by CTarana45
Luckily, A new gold mine was right built right next to my city!
I wasn't aware OpenTTD had any cheats! 8)

Thanks, Guys!

Christopher Tarana

Re: The Luck Of The Irish?

Posted: 12 Sep 2020 08:12
by jfs
audigex wrote: 11 Sep 2020 20:45 That does give me a thought for a feature request, though - a "months until closure" type of countdown

I know you can estimate it based on the production level, but that's not very intuitive to newbies... it would be nice if the game did it automatically
That can be done with a NewGRF mod, but changing the base industries' behaviour is basically impossible since that could break existing industry-mod NewGRF in all kinds of unexpected ways.

Re: The Luck Of The Irish?

Posted: 12 Sep 2020 21:17
by audigex
jfs wrote: 12 Sep 2020 08:12
audigex wrote: 11 Sep 2020 20:45 That does give me a thought for a feature request, though - a "months until closure" type of countdown

I know you can estimate it based on the production level, but that's not very intuitive to newbies... it would be nice if the game did it automatically
That can be done with a NewGRF mod, but changing the base industries' behaviour is basically impossible since that could break existing industry-mod NewGRF in all kinds of unexpected ways.
I was more meaning taking the existing behaviour and displaying an estimate of how long until the industry will (or is likely to) close. Eg calculate the number of ticks until the industry will drop below 1/4 production, and convert that to a time estimate

I believe there's an element of chance to when the output is adjusted, in which case it won't be precise, but perhaps then it may make sense to display the minimum time that the industry will definitely be alive for

If nothing else, an "In danger of closing soon" when the industry is within 1 or 2 adjustments of closing could make sense, so players can try to pick an industry that gives them a little more time to build.

Re: The Luck Of The Irish?

Posted: 13 Sep 2020 00:25
by jfs
Right I suppose it's possible to calculate the number of months until the risk of closure announcement is greater than some threshold.

Re: The Luck Of The Irish?

Posted: 13 Sep 2020 01:43
by _dp_
There already is an estimate - industry production (for primary industries ofc). If it's low industry is likely to close soon, don't use it. Also building train before track helps as well since it increases station rating and reduces chances of production going down. Though servicing industry with low production is a waste of time anyway.