Question about passenger delivery
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Question about passenger delivery
I have a question about the mechanics of passenger delivery with CargoDist enabled. I have a rail network running between two large cities. Halfway between both cities, my trains (DMUs) stop at a very small town (population < 200). If I look at the passengers waiting at the stations of the large cities, obviously most passengers (> 200) are waiting to get to the other large city, but I always have one or two passengers waiting to go to the small town. And this is where it gets odd. The passengers waiting to go to the small town are picked up by my trains, but are almost never delivered to the small town (very occassionaly, passengers are delivered, but almost always my trains don't generate revenue when arriving in the station of the small town). Instead, it appears that these passengers are delivered to the large city (all passengers leave the train when it arrives in one of the large cities).
I don't think this is a bug, because the small town still acts as if it receives passengers (it grows), which it very occassionaly does. So I think that it has to do with the passenger delivery mechanics.
Clearly this is not a big problem at all, but it bugs me tremendously because I can't figure it out
So if anyone can explain why these passengers are not always delivered to their destination, I would really appreciate it!
I don't think this is a bug, because the small town still acts as if it receives passengers (it grows), which it very occassionaly does. So I think that it has to do with the passenger delivery mechanics.
Clearly this is not a big problem at all, but it bugs me tremendously because I can't figure it out
So if anyone can explain why these passengers are not always delivered to their destination, I would really appreciate it!
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Cargodist is tracking, where passengers are willing to travel, thus if given train is filled up with passengers going to big city, all would go to the big city.
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Thank you for your answer. If I understand what you are saying correctly, you think that the trains don't have passengers in them going to the small town and because of this nobody gets of in the small town. My problem is that some of the passengers have their destination set as the small town, not the big city, but still travel to the big city. I have been monitoring the trains and every train contains at least one passenger going to the small town (a typical train contains about 150 passengers going to the big city and 2 passengers going to the small town), but only one train in twenty actually delivers passengers to the small town. This is what is bugging me, that the trains behave in an (for me) unpredictable way. I assume it has something to do with the mechanics of passenger delivery (maybe passengers can change their destination after boarding a train? I really don't know). Any insights would be greatly appreciated.McZapkie wrote:Cargodist is tracking, where passengers are willing to travel, thus if given train is filled up with passengers going to big city, all would go to the big city.
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Yes, it may be a cause (if train capacity is less than pax waiting, it may load only pax to big city).DrFreakazoid wrote: Thank you for your answer. If I understand what you are saying correctly, you think that the trains don't have passengers in them going to the small town and because of this nobody gets of in the small town.
Otherwise you spot a bug.
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Also, you should check what are your passenger distribution settings. If it's on asymmetrical, you should switch on to symmetrical. It will help balance passengers between the three stations.
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So how exactly would that help in balancing?acs121 wrote:Also, you should check what are your passenger distribution settings. If it's on asymmetrical, you should switch on to symmetrical. It will help balance passengers between the three stations.
If you connect a big town and a small town, you'll get (mostly) equally many passengers in both directions. Since the small town can't provide many passengers, your train will mostly be empty.
Personally, I consider symmetrical a cheat. You get full trains in both directions for free instead of having to work for it.
Being a retired OpenTTD developer does not mean I know what I am doing.
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But doesn't it just makes sense? It's weird if more passengers go from A to B than from B to A. A would soon run out of people
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I thought the idea of symmetrical was to simulate return journeys - but maybe that's my folly.
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In his case, there are 3 points. A is a big town. B is a small town. C is another big town. So his trains do A-B-C. Thanks to symmetrical passenger distribution, it will balance passenger numbers between the two big towns and balance these numbers with the other towns.Alberth wrote:So how exactly would that help in balancing?acs121 wrote:Also, you should check what are your passenger distribution settings. If it's on asymmetrical, you should switch on to symmetrical. It will help balance passengers between the three stations.
If you connect a big town and a small town, you'll get (mostly) equally many passengers in both directions. Since the small town can't provide many passengers, your train will mostly be empty.
Personally, I consider symmetrical a cheat. You get full trains in both directions for free instead of having to work for it.
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