I have come to the conclusion that the problems we keep having are due to one thing...
People are making NewGRFs for personal gain. By this, I of course don't mean money, but rather "merit".
"I made this NewGRF everyone uses, I should have a bigger say in how the community is run."
This is what is poisoning our community, the idea that creating NewGRFs gives you greater privilege. The moment that someone realizes that their NewGRFs do not give them superiority, they tend to try and bully the community into doing what they want under threat of impeding backwards-compatibility.
If backwards-compatibility is really the foundation of OpenTTD, this needs to stop. When you make a NewGRF, you are giving a gift to the community, and a gift given with the expectation of receiving something in return isn't a gift, it's a bribe. This doesn't mean the code has to be GPL v2, but it does mean the NewGRF itself is unconditionally made available forever the moment you post it online for people to download. The entire reason we do what we do is because we want to see this community thrive, not to inflate our own egos, and it is not okay to take your ball and go home when, for all intents and purposes, that ball no longer belongs to you.
The real problem with making NewGRFs...
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Re: The real problem with making NewGRFs...
It's interesting... you complain about the idea that creating NewGRF's gives you the idea you can tell the rest of the community how to operate, but in your next paragraph you turn right around and tell the community how things should be ran. You really just need to let this go. It's not healthy for you and nobody is going to be sympathetic towards you while you continue to raise a fuss about it.
If you feel so strongly about NewGRFs as you do, then your solution going forward is to create works that you feel the community deserves to have. Yes, somebody did an awful thing and configured their NewGRF so it's no longer compatible with yours. You can do something about that. You can create a similar NewGRF that doesn't have those restrictions and give the community a choice. Nobody will think of you any worse for doing so.
If you feel so strongly about NewGRFs as you do, then your solution going forward is to create works that you feel the community deserves to have. Yes, somebody did an awful thing and configured their NewGRF so it's no longer compatible with yours. You can do something about that. You can create a similar NewGRF that doesn't have those restrictions and give the community a choice. Nobody will think of you any worse for doing so.
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Re: The real problem with making NewGRFs...
You're talking nonsense.SimYouLater wrote:I have come to the conclusion that the problems we keep having are due to one thing...
This community would be much better if you just stopped posting.
OpenTTD is just cartoon vehicles. It doesn't need these internet dramas.
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Re: The real problem with making NewGRFs...
Quite.andythenorth wrote:It doesn't need these internet dramas.
I’m not sure this is a healthy rabbit hole to go down, so I’m going to lock this for now.
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