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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:44 pm 
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To break my own silence on this forum, I would like to make an offer:

Although I am very much 100% retired from OpenTTD development, I have a big interest in finish up the NoAI of OpenTTD. The main problem I had in the past, is that there was no user-group which tested the function we created, and gave advise on functions they needed and used. Therefor, it was impossible to continue this API, as I had no idea which direction to go.

That said, I am willing to help you out finishing the NoAI to which ever extend you need for such an AI challenge, if you can help me by telling what you need exactly. Of course this doesn't need to be done at once, and can change in time, but the feedback is very much critical for any success of NoAI.

If you are interested, please drop me an email at truelight at openttd.org, or visit me at IRC (irc.oftc.net, nickname TrueBrain, I am online, just not in any normal channel ;)). If there is any interest in a face-to-face meet, I am a CS student at The University of Leiden, so TJIP is not that far away ;)

Also I would like to ask, while looking into NoAI and creating AIs, to update and add things to the AI part of the wiki: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/AI:Main_Page. This is also a critical part to make NoAI any success.

To give some addition info: there is a (small) list of things that needs to be done in NoAI here: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/AI:TODO

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:12 am 
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I am really sorry for bumping this thread, but I am very interested in a new AI. Are there any updates for this challenge? What's going on WITH!!!!! this? Sorry for my bad English.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:25 am 
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You can keep up with discussion and updates about the New AI called NoAI in irc://irc.oftc.net/openttd.noai

Or you can go checking the branch NoAI..


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:54 pm 
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Yesterday I saw this poster in the basement of my studenthouse: (Sorry for the poor quality)
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File comment: Tjip Transport Tycoon
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:09 pm 
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Any chance of getting a higher quality version, it looks interesting.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:23 pm 
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Niek wrote:
Any chance of getting a higher quality version

Translation: "Turn on the lights and don't use your phone."

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:36 pm 
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DaleStan wrote:
Niek wrote:
Any chance of getting a higher quality version

Translation: "Turn on the lights and don't use your phone."


It is in an basement where there are automatic lights and I just prefer to use my crappy phone-camera instead of my 12 Megapixel single-lens reflex camera I have always hanging around my neck.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:02 pm 
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Can you then at least make a readable pic with your phone-camera?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:47 pm 
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My guess is that the text on the picture is very closely related to this web page (and the other pages from the side menu under Evenementen -> TJIP Challenge)...


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:23 pm 
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Leviath.NL wrote:
Yesterday I saw this poster in the basement of my studenthouse (..)


Well here it is:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:39 pm 
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and translation?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:05 pm 
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TJIP challenge 2008

take control and become a
TRANSPORT TYCOON

after the success of the Jeu Awale' programming competition TJIP is organizing a TJIP challenge with the open Transport Tycoon Deluxe game in 2008

Assignment: Program an AI for the open Transport Tycoon Deluxe game within the OpenTTD AI framework.

Build trucks, buses, roads, and stations. Transports goods and persons, and make a profit!

But be warned: You are not alone and your opponents will do anything to oppose you while they build their imperium.

If you want to compete your programming talents against others, register, and make a chance for the main prize, hardware for 2500 euros.

Kick-off takes place at 24 may 2008 (helmond), or june 7 2008 (delft). Finales are in Delft at september 20, 2008.

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For more information and subscribing,
www.tjipchallenge.com


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:41 pm 
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Hmm. No-one told them that OpenTTD isn't an acronym, then...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:21 pm 
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and what it is then? :)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:32 pm 
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It is just OpenTTD. Something to do with legalities etc i think.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:14 pm 
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Maybe this thread can be moved to the NoAI sub?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:42 pm 
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You just dug it out so that it will be moved? Why did you not just let it rest in peace, it seems like it is not needed anymore.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:22 pm 
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Timitry wrote:
You just dug it out so that it will be moved? Why did you not just let it rest in peace, it seems like it is not needed anymore.


I guess that after the final, I'd like to inform the comunity about it? Futhermore, there are some participants of the challenge who are active on this forum.

Just my 2cts...

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while(Me.Alive()){
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:43 am 
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The second Tjip Challenge was an easy victory for the Rondje rond de kerk (Round trip around the church, Dutch/Flemish saying to point out that something is boring. It has its origin in cycling). During the qualification it scored an impressive 15 million pound average, while Ottari (the runner-up) only made 3.5 million.

At the finales all engines kept there places. Third place was for Shadow Inc., although it went bankrupt once and scored bad in the other final.

Final Standings
  1. Rondje rond de kerk (£15,671,342)
  2. Ottari (£3,487,225)
  3. Shadows Inc. (£2,798,447)
  4. NAAI (£876,351)
  5. YATTAI (£760,638)
  6. SubsidyAI (£512,639)
  7. NoCAB (£73,984)
  8. GoingForGold (£17,380)
  9. Appelmoes Intelligentie (£-38,291)

I’d like to point out that I really enjoyed this challenge, both as participant and organiser, even when it turned out that NoCAB (the AI of Morloth and I) performed horrible compared to the others. It was really fun to meet al those OpenTTD adepts, including TrueBrain and Rubidium.

A comprehensive report (in Dutch) can be found elsewhere: gathering.tweakers.net
For reactions of participants see: viewtopic.php?f=65&t=39343

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while(Me.Alive()){
    Me.KickAss();
    try{
        Me.LearnLanguage(Language.EN);
        Me.dyslectic = false;
    }
    catch{ /*nice try :( */}
}


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:44 pm 
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Thanks for the information. :) Would someone who speaks dutch be so kind and translate the post here into english for those who don't understand dutch? :) (I was able to figure out some parts of it because it sounds like a mixture of german and english with horrible spelling if you read over it :lol: )

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