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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by GarryG » 16 Jan 2017 02:15

Unsinkable Sam (also known as Oskar or Oscar) was the nickname of an alleged German ship's cat who reportedly saw service in both the Kriegsmarine and Royal Navy during the Second World War, serving on board three vessels and surviving the sinking of all three.

Here's the link about that story if interested. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsinkable_Sam

Hope Andy don't let the cat sail on his ships as they too might all sink :)
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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by McZapkie » 16 Jan 2017 11:24

Well, does it means, that launch of the Blue Danube Euro-roster is cancelled?


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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by Dave » 16 Jan 2017 13:00

Corrrr. You tease!
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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by Diesel Power » 29 Jan 2017 19:53

WOW looks amazing Andy! :shock:

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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by NekoMaster » 30 Jan 2017 01:45

So I guess Unsinkable Sam is going to be like a Generic Ship Set?
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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by oftcrash » 08 Feb 2017 17:19

I'm quite excited about this set. I use both FISH and SQUID right now. Out of curiosity, I know you tend not to create vehicles for future dates. Will that hold true for this set?

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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by andythenorth » 08 Feb 2017 19:12

oftcrash wrote:Out of curiosity, I know you tend not to create vehicles for future dates. Will that hold true for this set?
For initial releases definitely no future vehicles. ;)

There are some interesting options for 'futuristic' (post 2010) ships, e.g. x-bow, flettner rotors, very-high speed catamarans etc. The main blocker is that ships are a lot of work to draw (as they are large compared to trains etc, and have complicated shapes).

Even a test release for Sam is a ways off right now, the grf can be downloaded from build farm, but it's got a lot of broken in it ;) http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/

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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by supermop » 08 Feb 2017 21:17

andythenorth wrote:
oftcrash wrote:Out of curiosity, I know you tend not to create vehicles for future dates. Will that hold true for this set?
For initial releases definitely no future vehicles. ;)

There are some interesting options for 'futuristic' (post 2010) ships, e.g. x-bow, flettner rotors, very-high speed catamarans etc. The main blocker is that ships are a lot of work to draw (as they are large compared to trains etc, and have complicated shapes).

Even a test release for Sam is a ways off right now, the grf can be downloaded from build farm, but it's got a lot of broken in it ;) http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/
Maybe Oftcrash and I are not on the same page here, but I take 'future dates' to mean something a little different than 'futuristic'. What I think of, and what I would like, would be incremental but not fantastical, new iterations of vehicles, somewhat in the manner of egrvts. I guess the idea would be to allow a continuing of vehicle improvements into the mid 21st century. If sam doesn't rely much on a clear progression of vehicles, then maybe its not that critical.

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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by oftcrash » 08 Feb 2017 22:12

supermop wrote:Maybe Oftcrash and I are not on the same page here, but I take 'future dates' to mean something a little different than 'futuristic'. What I think of, and what I would like, would be incremental but not fantastical, new iterations of vehicles, somewhat in the manner of egrvts. I guess the idea would be to allow a continuing of vehicle improvements into the mid 21st century. If sam doesn't rely much on a clear progression of vehicles, then maybe its not that critical.
I think both - incremental ship improvement for future dates, but also new technology as well.

The other thing I wonder about - is the top ship speed still 128kph? I looked at this thread, and it looks like there's a work around, but it could cause problems over 256?


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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by Nondidjos » 09 Sep 2017 16:52

andythenorth wrote: Is ships. FISH and Squid don't float my boat, for reasons. ;)
FIRS compatible ship set?
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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by Alberth » 09 Sep 2017 19:13

I would expect so, any modern vehicle set supports non-default cargo.
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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by Nondidjos » 09 Sep 2017 20:51

Alberth wrote:I would expect so, any modern vehicle set supports non-default cargo.
I meant as in graphics, since you can make out other kinds of cargo inside the freighter, but you are right! There must be more to it than just this.
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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by Alberth » 10 Sep 2017 05:36

Nondidjos wrote:I meant as in graphics, since you can make out other kinds of cargo inside the freighter
Same author as FIRS, so cargo graphics are also consistent, no doubt :)
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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by SimYouLater » 10 Sep 2017 18:06

andythenorth wrote:Partial buy menu.
For the sake of blueFish (which I will get on after I do the much smaller TTD-Scale), is there a way I could see a tracking table of some sort? I'd like the two to be compatible.
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Re: Unsinkable Sam

Post by SimYouLater » 10 Sep 2017 18:59

andythenorth wrote:Partial buy menu.
Is there a way I could see a tracking table? I'll be continuing blueFISH after TTD-Scale is done (which should be a small project), so it would be nice to not be having duplicate vehicles.
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