Belgian Public Transportation

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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by Pilot » 23 Sep 2016 20:30

Indeed, I'm all for it looking realistic in size, it's just the fact that in the corners, it might not look good. A double length carriage might overlap onto an adjacent track.

For example. in this screenshot you can see that the train turns by Half Tile, I've never seen a full tile train before, so I'm not sure how this will work. Hopefully you understand what I mean :)
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 24 Sep 2016 21:41

Pilot wrote:Indeed, I'm all for it looking realistic in size, it's just the fact that in the corners, it might not look good. A double length carriage might overlap onto an adjacent track.

For example. in this screenshot you can see that the train turns by Half Tile, I've never seen a full tile train before, so I'm not sure how this will work. Hopefully you understand what I mean :)
Indeed, I intend to divide each carriage into two separated sprites so you only get 1/2 tiles sprites just like on this exemple.

Here's what it looks like when drawing it...
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But at the end I intend to divide each cariage into two separate sprites so it looks like this.
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 26 Sep 2016 01:13

Final model

AM 08/MS08 Desiro ML SNCB/NMBS
AM 08 MS08 Desiro ML preview.png
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Here are the sprites but as noted by many this would have looked weird ingame...
AM 08 MS08 Desiro ML real size sprites.png
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So I've tried to divide each car into 2 different sprites for each car.
AM 08 MS08 Desiro ML (sprites V1.0).png
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 26 Sep 2016 10:42

Final model

Bombardier Flexity 2 De Lijn (Gent & Antwerpen)
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Antwerpen unidirectionnal 31 m
Antwerpen unidirectionnal 41 m
Gent bidirectionnal 41 m
Bombardier Flexity 2 (sprites V1.1).png
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by Quast65 » 26 Sep 2016 12:52

I've tried to divide each car into 2 different sprites for each car.
Firstly, I am not sure if anyone else has tried this approach before and secondly I think it may look very strange when a trainsegment that looks whole in one view, suddenly breaks up in 2 separate pieces when on a bend...
Finally, how would this kind of design look compared to trains already available in the game?
Hopefully you are able to find a traincoder (or try to code it yourself) to see how it works ingame.

However, I did try to resize one view of the train to what I think is the current standard. May still need some tweaking, but it hopefully has the details that makes it recognisable (2 doors in each segment, middle windows placed a bit lower than the outer windows):
AM%2008%20MS08%20Desiro%20ML%20real%20size%20sprites_QUAST_EDIT.png
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Right now, the outer windows are 2 pixles wide, making those one pixel leaves some room to make the inner window a bit longer, that may even be better...
This is just to help you a bit on your way if the division of a car doesnt work ;-)
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 26 Sep 2016 15:17

Quast65 wrote:
I've tried to divide each car into 2 different sprites for each car.
Firstly, I am not sure if anyone else has tried this approach before and secondly I think it may look very strange when a trainsegment that looks whole in one view, suddenly breaks up in 2 separate pieces when on a bend...
Finally, how would this kind of design look compared to trains already available in the game?
Hopefully you are able to find a traincoder (or try to code it yourself) to see how it works ingame.

However, I did try to resize one view of the train to what I think is the current standard. May still need some tweaking, but it hopefully has the details that makes it recognisable (2 doors in each segment, middle windows placed a bit lower than the outer windows):
AM%2008%20MS08%20Desiro%20ML%20real%20size%20sprites_QUAST_EDIT.png
Right now, the outer windows are 2 pixles wide, making those one pixel leaves some room to make the inner window a bit longer, that may even be better...
This is just to help you a bit on your way if the division of a car doesnt work ;-)

Thanks but I've already have all those done in TTD standard
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I'm not used to draw to TDD standard as I make most of my pixy work for other purposes...
Yet since I've started to draw TDD sprites, the TTD standards have always seemed really odd since the 50% ratio (ortho/iso) is made between a diagonal and a square side...

I've tried this to see what it looks like ingame but it cannot look worst than a train whose size is reduce by two when turning :D
We'll se what it looks like ingame.

(The long length of the coach is due to the scale I use which is always the same from a tram or a building to a train.)
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 01 Oct 2016 22:22

AM 08/MS08 Desiro ML SNCB/NMBS

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AM 08 MS08 Desiro ML (sprites V1.2).png
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n° 0-1 1st car
n° 2-3 2nd car
n° 4-5 3rd car

General informations
Speed: 160 km/h
Capacity (depending on the livery model)
Designed: 2O12
Life: 30 years
Max. Reliability: 80%
Acceleration: 1,1 m/s2
Loading Speed: Fast
Cargo Aging Speed: Fast
Usage: Suburban/regional lines

This model includes 2 liveries:
AM 08/MS08 Desiro ML SNCB/NMBS (defaut model)
Capacity: 560
AM 08/MS08 Desiro ML SNCB/NMBS (multiple unit)
Capacity: 1120

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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 04 Oct 2016 00:27

Mercedes-Benz Citaro LE Ü - Connexxion Netherlands
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Mercedes-Benz Citaro LE Ü - doorZeeland Netherlands
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Mercedes-Benz Citaro S - Veolia Transport Maastricht
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 04 Oct 2016 01:04

Mercedes-Benz Citaro S C2 - STIB MIVB Brussels
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 05 Oct 2016 11:40

Mercedes-Benz Citaro LE - TEC Wallonia / Mercedes-Benz Citaro LE C2 - TEC Wallonia
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by Quast65 » 05 Oct 2016 12:27

Thnx for drawing Dutch busses!! :bow:
Hope they get coded soon!
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by Silverx50 » 05 Oct 2016 12:59

Quast65 wrote:Thnx for drawing Dutch busses!!
Hope they get coded soon!
indeed, great to see dutch busses :bow:
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 05 Oct 2016 14:32

Silverx50 wrote:
Quast65 wrote:Thnx for drawing Dutch busses!!
Hope they get coded soon!
indeed, great to see dutch busses :bow:
Not now since the coder of this thread is quite busy for now and I only wanted those to be part of the Belgian set, but if anyone is willing to code a Dutch Bus Set I can provide a lots more sprites including the 21 m Q-Link Capacity... I've already made some Dutch sprites
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But those are quite hard to code since I don't use the 50% ratio

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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 16 Oct 2016 04:36

WIP Connexxion Man Lion's City LE CNG
liveries: Connexxion and doorZeeland
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 03 Nov 2016 01:23

MIVB/STIB Van Hool AG300 CNG
Speed: 70 km/h
Capacity: (depending on the livery model)
Designed: 1993
Life: 20 years
Max. Reliability: 80%
Loading Speed: Fast
Cargo Aging Speed: Fast
Usage: Local/suburban lines

This model includes 2 liveries:
STIB (old livery)
Capacity: ?
STIB (current livery)
Capacity: ?
MIVB-STIB Van Hool AG300 CNG 1.0.png
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Budapest ex-MIVB/STIB Van Hool AG300 CNG
Speed: 70 km/h
Capacity: (depending on the livery model)
Designed: 1993
Life: 20 years
Max. Reliability: 80%
Loading Speed: Fast
Cargo Aging Speed: Fast
Usage: Local/suburban lines

This model includes 2 liveries:
Ex-MIVB/STIB (old livery)
Capacity: ?
Ex-MIVB/STIB (current livery)
Capacity: ?
Budapest ex-MIVB-STIB Van Hool AG300 CNG 1.0.png
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 03 Nov 2016 01:24

De Lijn Van Hool AG300
Speed: 70 km/h
Capacity: (depending on the livery model)
Designed: 1993
Life: 20 years
Max. Reliability: 80%
Loading Speed: Fast
Cargo Aging Speed: Fast
Usage: Local/suburban lines
De Lijn Van Hool AG300 1.0.png
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TEC Van Hool AG300 CNG
Speed: 70 km/h
Capacity: (depending on the livery model)
Designed: 1993
Life: 20 years
Max. Reliability: 80%
Loading Speed: Fast
Cargo Aging Speed: Fast
Usage: Local/suburban lines
TEC Van Hool AG300 CNG 1.0.png
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(De Lijn and TEC were founded in 1991 through the breakup of the former Belgian NMVB/SNCV into separate companies for Wallonia and Flanders.)
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 03 Nov 2016 01:52

NMBS/SNCB MS08/AM 08 Desiro ML
Speed: 160 km/h
Capacity: (depending on the livery model)
Designed: 2O12
Life: 40 years
Max. Reliability: 80%
Acceleration: 1,1 m/s2
Loading Speed: Medium
Cargo Aging Speed: Fast
Usage: Suburban/regional lines

This model includes 2 liveries:
(single unit)
Capacity: 560
(multiple unit)
Capacity: 1120
NMBS-SNCB MS08-AM 08 Desiro ML 1.0.png
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Sprites
n° 1-4 1st car
n° 5-8 2nd car
n° 9-12 3rd car

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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 04 Nov 2016 02:44

NMVB/SNCV La Brugeoise et Nivelles LRV
Speed: 130 km/h
Capacity: (depending on the livery model)
Designed: 1981
Life: 60 years
Max. Reliability: 100%
Loading Speed: Medium
Cargo Aging Speed: Fast
Usage: Local/suburban/regional lines

This model includes 2 liveries:
6100 (single unit)
Capacity: 192
6100 (multiple unit)
Capacity: 384
The attachment NMVB-SNCV La Brugeoise et Nivelles LRV 1.0.png is no longer available
Sprites
n°1 6100 1st car with doors opened
n°2 6100 2nd car with doors opened
n°3 6100 1st car
n°4 6100 2nd car
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NMVB-SNCV La Brugeoise et Nivelles LRV 1.0.png
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 04 Nov 2016 02:47

De Lijn La Brugeoise et Nivelles LRV
Speed: 130 km/h
Capacity: (depending on the livery model)
Designed: 1991 (De Lijn was founded in 1991 through the breakup of the former Belgian NMVB/SNCV into separate companies for Wallonia and Flanders.)
Life: 50 years
Max. Reliability: 100%
Loading Speed: Medium
Cargo Aging Speed: Fast
Usage: Local/suburban/regional lines

This model includes 3 liveries:
6000 (single unit)
Capacity: 191
6100 (multiple unit)
Capacity: 382
6100 (3-car single unit)
Capacity: 310
De Lijn La Brugeoise et Nivelles LRV 1.0.png
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Re: Belgian Public Transportation

Post by dldwg » 04 Nov 2016 02:49

TEC La Brugeoise et Nivelles LRV
Speed: 130 km/h
Capacity: (depending on the livery model)
Designed: 1991 (TEC was founded in 1991 through the breakup of the former Belgian NMVB/SNCV into separate companies for Wallonia and Flanders.)
Life: 50 years
Max. Reliability: 100%
Loading Speed: Medium
Cargo Aging Speed: Fast
Usage: Local/suburban/regional lines

This model includes 2 liveries:
6100 (single unit)
Capacity: 192
6100 (multiple unit)
Capacity: 384
TEC La Brugeoise et Nivelles LRV 1.0.png
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